Your machine frame is mostly wood and it seems to not have any path to ground for the spindle motor case. You should try running a ground wire from your aluminum spindle clamp to the ground screw of the spindle PSU and make sure the power input cable to the supply is actually grounded with the plug.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:46 PM Chris Albertson <[email protected]> wrote: > Do the videos show "before" or "after" the noise fix was attempted? They > kind of look like "before" photos. I don't see any twisted and > shielded cables and I do see signal and power cables running in parallel > with little separation. > > If power cables are tightly twisted, maybe 4 times per inch then the > radiated field is mostly canceled at about 11 cable diameters. You have > to think about magnetic fields. Typically high current cables with > magnetic the e-feild and the shield does about nothing for magnetics. > > We also can not see how the grounds in the power supplies, drivers and > logic board are connected, or not connected. A diagram would help > > Also it is very hard to know what is happening without schematics > > It is slightly best if the switches are wired to the normal state is to > have the signal at ground and with a strong pull-up. If debounce is > needed (it is) you can try in software but a capacitor and a couple > of resistors work better. basically the computer tracks the voltage > across the cap The cap is charges or discharge through a resister sothere > is a controlled rate of change. > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 5:41 PM Mason M <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> We are continuing to experience issues that we believe are relating to >> electrical noise on our BCNC. We realize that our machine is slightly >> unorthodox, so we have a folder link with wiring diagrams and assembly >> videos to help you help us. We are in the process of testing the machine. >> We had noise issues from the spindle power lines (which are not shielded), >> but we removed them from cable bundles and that seemed to remove that >> issue. We are able to run files successfully in the air, but we receive >> limit switch errors when we begin cutting through material. our system >> seems to be rigid enough to not be the problem and our motors are strong >> enough that human force doesn't stop the system from running. We rewired >> our spndle power supply to have a seperate power cable than our primary >> power supply as well. We have tried adding debouncing code to our Hal file, >> but this caused Machinekit to not sense our limit switches (we couldn't >> complete a homing sequence). >> >> folder link >> >> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-BqfZynZqA0JI15VOP9ZtjejnNKbGmoU?usp=sharing >> >> >> BCNC tour >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBFH62Z3-sc >> >> limit switch/motor wiring >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3WAHGZgA68 >> >> spindle wiring >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvBb8_dZvA >> >> power supply wiring >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADKeLWRwG3Y >> >> On Saturday, July 25, 2020 at 12:41:04 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You should not make a loop of wire for the ground (gnd from switch to >>> switch to switch is not good). >>> You should have one wire for the switch input, and one wire for the >>> signal ground in your switch cabling. >>> All of the grounds from the various switches should meet at one point >>> on the I/O terminal signal ground point. >>> If possible, you should use shielded cabling. Tie all of the shields >>> (bare drain wires) at the same end near the inputs, but then connect them >>> to an *earth* ground, not the signal ground of the input. An example of an >>> earth ground in a system would be the green wire (or green with yellow >>> stripe) of a power supply, not the V- of the power supply. >>> 2-wire 22 gauge "sound and security" from Home Depot, etc. will >>> typically be stranded wire with a drain wire and shielding. This would be >>> a good choice as it has all three of the conductors that you want. Red for >>> signal, black for signal ground and bare drain for shielding. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 10:40:34 AM UTC-7, Frederic RIBLE wrote: >>> >>>> Could you describe the wiring of these switches on your machine? >>>> I am wondering if you have two wires per switch going up to the logic >>>> board, or only one, with ground sharing. >>>> On 2020-07-21 19:39, Mason Millner wrote: >>>> >>> We are using momentary hinge limit switches ( >>>> https://www.amazon.com/URBESTAC-Momentary-Hinge-Roller-Switches/dp/B00MFRMFS6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1535482225&sr=8-3&keywords=limit+switch) >>>> and our spindle ( >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Koolertron-Spindle-Milling-Converter-Engraving/dp/B074XTKJTJ/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1535482152&sr=8-9&keywords=spindle+cnc) >>>> is operating from its own power supply. >>>> The machine is fairly rigid. No limit switches are triggered from until >>>> material is being cut. The bamboo does vibrate quite a bit as it spans 65" >>>> supported only on the ends, but we have been able to successfully cut this >>>> dimension previously (on a 3-axis Techno machine). >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 1:12:01 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> You didnt mention what type of limit switches you're using or how your >>>>> spindle works. The Y axis itself shouldn't be under any special stress >>>>> while cutting but the spindle generally takes a hard hit as soon as a tool >>>>> enters the cut. Is the spindle motor powered by the same power supply your >>>>> switches are on? Supply could be dropping low. Is the machine not ridgid >>>>> and vibration tripping the switches? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 8:54 AM Mason Millner <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are developing a 4-axis CNC to mill bamboo poles and are currently >>>>>> running tests in just three axis (x, y, z). We can dry-run g-code files >>>>>> successfully, however we receive limit switch errors (primarily on joint >>>>>> 1) >>>>>> when we begin cutting material. We suspect that the error is occuring in >>>>>> the y-axis and that possibly our drivers are causing a problem (either >>>>>> they >>>>>> are too small or not tuned adequately).. It is difficult to tell what is >>>>>> going on and how the machine is configured from the information given. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have the z-axis running on the long x-axis, running on two >>>>>> shorter dual y-axes. >>>>>> >>>>>> The axis shaft is a ½” (12.7mm) , also the motor shaft is ¼” >>>>>> (6.35mm). we are using polyurethane insert couplers (these have >>>>>> regularly >>>>>> been coming loose though). >>>>>> >>>>>> The motors are NEMA 23s with 3A rating/phase controlled by Pololu >>>>>> TB67S249FTG drivers on a Cramps 2.2 cape on the Beaglebone Black. The >>>>>> drivers have a current limit of 1.6A and are further limited to %90 for >>>>>> safety. The Current limit for the board and drivers are defiantly a >>>>>> bottle >>>>>> neck, but the motors have enough power to operate. [Could this be the >>>>>> problem?] >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. If more >>>>>> information is needed please let me know. I'm fairly new to the machine >>>>>> development side of this project. 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