I was an Apple SE a couple of times in my life and Chris is right.  I was in a 
meeting with Steve Jobs standing in front of the entire Enterprise Business 
Sales team a few years ago when he was asked if Apple was seriously interested 
in being an Enterprise Products company.  His answer was typically short and to 
the point.  "Apple is not an Enterprise products company.  We are a Consumer 
products company.  We may make products that Enterprise likes but we are not an 
Enterprise company."  A stunned silence for a minute from the Enterprise 
Business team.  

I love my Macs but for serving in the future I'm moving to linux.

Fred Reitberger
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On Nov 4, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

> 
> On Nov 4, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Lawrence Sica wrote:
>> 
>> It's par for the course though,  they don't allow virtualizing any os on 
>> non-apple hardware.
> 
> Yes I know and it's retarded if you're going to be taken seriously by serious 
> people. They saw that writing on the wall and simply got out of server 
> altogether.
> 
>> This has nothing to do with enterprise vs consumer.  Apple has a built-in 
>> aversion to running their OS on non-apple gear stemming from how horribly 
>> they were hurt by clones.
> 
> That's ridiculous. Clones were siphoning hardware sales. That is not what a 
> license to virtualize would do because Apple isn't selling such hardware 
> anymore. It would simply let people who have made a major investment in Mac 
> OS X Server solutions migrate to new hardware, while consolidating systems.
> 
>> I think a more likely scenario is Apple is focusing on home users across the 
>> board.  This makes a bit of sense as well from their standpoint.   The 
>> problem is the market wants them to do X and Apple has limited interest.   I 
>> suspect they'd prefer just to worry about the client side if they could.
> 
> Yes obviously. That was apparent 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago and 
> why no one really should have taken their entry into enterprise even remotely 
> seriously. It was guaranteed from inception they'd abandon that market, and 
> abruptly, without a means for smooth migration compatible with how that 
> market would prefer to migrate. Instead Apple comes up with a document from 
> the lunatic asylum as if this market would actually use a 10 foot deep pile 
> of Mac minis, or 13U towers in racks.
> 
> It's not as much Apple is stupid, as it is they think their consumers are 
> stupid and will just accept moronic advice because it has an Apple logo on it.
> 
> 
> Chris Murphy
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