Exactly, lion server is just like, say, FCPx, a rejiggering and a change of 
focus.

And there are plenty of scenarios where a "serious" server setup does not equal 
a rack full of virtualized boxes and a SAN... In fact most don't. 


/Thomas



On 05/11/2011, at 20.49, John May <[email protected]> wrote:

> I respectfully disagree with your interpretation.  You can connect the dots 
> in any way you wish.  I personally see them as progressing somewhere, not 
> riding off into the sunset.
> 
> But these are all guesses either way, and I would highly recommend to anyone 
> reading your final statement to take into consideration that it is in no way 
> based in fact.
> 
>    - John
> 
> 
> On 11/5/11 1:57 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> All you have to do is connect the dots on the decisions they've
>> already made. It's not unreasonable to draw a line from where they've
>> gone recently to estimate where they are going.
>> 
>> It wouldn't have hurt Apple to allow virtualization of SL on foreign
>> hardware one bit. But they don't care to put in any effort to make
>> that happen. And it doesn't appear to hurt Apple to support UEFI and
>> yet thus far they continue to use a non-standard implementation that
>> makes it difficult to impossible to support other OS's on Apple
>> hardware.
>> 
>> So for anyone looking for even remotely serious server solutions it
>> totally means abandoning Apple hardware and OS.
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:47 AM, John May wrote:
>> 
>>> FYI, Apple has in no way said OS X Server has been dropped.  That
>>> is a *huge* assumption of the direction they are going to take.
>>> 
>>> I have a feeling that, just like FCP X, they retooled OS X Server
>>> in 10.7, and we will see continued improvement - not
>>> discontinuation - of it in the future.  Sometimes it's two steps
>>> forward and one step back.
>>> 
>>> - John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/5/11 3:51 AM, Ashley Aitken wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, Apple is a business and has no responsibility to its
>>>> customers?!
>>>> 
>>>> What saddens me is that Mac OS X Server was really starting to
>>>> work well (at least for me).  I remember starting back with
>>>> Server 10.0 when nothing worked (and I spent days and days
>>>> finding out ;-) It's somewhat like when they dropped the Newton
>>>> way back when (it was just starting to really work well).
>>>> 
>>>> But more specifically I am annoyed that all the information (and
>>>> links - the web of information) we have inside the Mac OS X
>>>> Server wiki is trapped - there seems no easy way to export to
>>>> another wiki. At least organisations should provide some way for
>>>> customers to preserve their investments when they leave a
>>>> market.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I am unsure about the fidelity of saving files on other
>>>> server filesystems.  There used to be filename restrictions /
>>>> incompatibilities (AFAIK) with using non-HFS+ file systems (and
>>>> file serving protocols, e.g. NFS) on the server, and open-source
>>>> HFS implementations were always behind Apple.
>>>> 
>>>> Already, of course, my SLS doesn't provide versioning facilities
>>>> for files saved to the server.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers, Ashley.
>>>> 
> 
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