Hi Nigel (et al),

Thanks for your post.

On 05/10/2012, at 4:22 PM, Morson wrote:

> Just spotted this thread whilst searching for info on the same problem.

Still happening to me, about once every three months.

> I find I can normally get the mail working again by deleting the offending
> message from the mail queue.

Yes, I have found that as well.

What's worrying though is a lot of entries in the mail queue (in OS X Server 
Admin at least) look completely garbled and I worry I might be deleting 
messages other than the ones I think I am.

I probably should be using the command line (but I am tired ;-).

> If you sort by date you'll probably find there
> are two messages from the same person at the top of the list. If you click
> on them, one will show 'trace service failure' in the info window. Delete
> both and hit Retry button. It might take a while to sort out, as the failure
> cycle has to get up to 11 (the fatal one) before it will try again. The
> other way I found of confirming which message caused the problem is to
> search for 'trace service' in the SMPT log and then noting the message ID.
> It should correspond to the message ID of one of the messages identified by
> the previous method.

This is VERY useful, thank you. I will try it next time it happens.

> In our case it seems to be triggered by read receipt requests. If we ask the
> sender to turn them off the messages get through fine.

Very interesting thanks.  

Is there some way we can fix it at our end though - it's a bit hard to ask 
everyone else not to send read receipt requests ;-)

Thanks again for taking the time to post your solution.

Cheers,
Ashley.


> 
> 
> 
> Ashley Aitken wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm having trouble with the Mail service on MacOSX Server Snow Leopard
>> 10.6.8.  A few days ago it just suddenly stopped delivering email both
>> ways (outgoing and incoming).  Email doesn't bounce it just seems to get
>> trapped in postfix.
>> 
>> The SMTP log repeats:
>> 
>> Oct 22 07:02:21 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #1 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:02:31 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #2 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:02:41 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #3 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:02:51 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #4 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:03:01 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #5 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:03:11 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #6 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:03:21 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #7 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:03:31 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #8 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:03:41 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #9 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:03:51 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: warning: connect #10 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:04:01 server postfix/qmgr[33748]: fatal: connect #11 to
>> subsystem private/trace: Connection refused
>> Oct 22 07:04:02 server postfix/master[21458]: warning: process
>> /usr/libexec/postfix/qmgr pid 33748 exit status 1
>> 
>> and the IMAP log shows:
>> 
>> Oct 21 15:00:09 server dovecot[1446]: IMAP(*): Corrupted index cache file
>> /var/spool/imap/dovecot/mail/CBAADED6-2713-11D8-94F9-00306542E9BA/.Sent
>> Messages/dovecot.index.cache: Corrupted physical size for uid=8712: 527 !=
>> 504
>> Oct 21 15:00:10 server dovecot[1446]: IMAP(*): Corrupted index cache file
>> /var/spool/imap/dovecot/mail/CBAADED6-2713-11D8-94F9-00306542E9BA/.Sent
>> Messages/dovecot.index.cache: Corrupted physical size for uid=8422: 384 !=
>> 369
>> 
>> (the way to fix these seems to be deleting cache files and letting dovecot
>> rebuild them, but I have done that and they still seem to pop up now and
>> then)
>> 
>> and Mail access shows:
>> 
>> Oct 22 07:06:11 server push_notify[21380]: notification server connect
>> failed, will retry in 300 seconds
>> 
>> There are about 200 emails in the Mail Queue and a strange one with id
>> FFFFFFFFFF and recipients and sender […] and sometimes strange entries pop
>> up in there the look like a mail config file.
>> 
>> Strangely sometimes a few emails seem to get through and in my tinkering a
>> bunch of emails once got through.
>> 
>> Everything was working find and I don't think I changed anything to cause
>> this.
>> 
>> I've tried just about everything I know, including:
>> 
>> 1. Stopped and started the Mail Service and rebooted the server multiple
>> times
>> 2. Deleted (using Server Admin) entries in the Mail Queue that look
>> problematic (there was one relatively large one 13MB and one or two
>> without recipients in the listing)
>> 3. Turned up logging but nothing new seems to be reported
>> 4. Search the web for the error message but can't find anything really
>> related to "private/trace"
>> 
>> My next idea is to remove all the mail in the Mail Queue but I would
>> prefer not to do that.
>> 
>> Any suggestions or even pointers to forums that can help with postfix
>> problems (if it is postfix causing this) would be most appreciated.  My
>> wife is getting impatient for her email ;-)
>> 
>> Note this is Snow Leopard Server (running on a Mac mini Server) and NOT
>> Lion Server.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance or pointers.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ashley.
>> 
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