On 15-Apr-2011, at 15:45, Michael_google gmail_Gersten wrote:
> I'm trying to understand the difference between the iPod touch and the
> iPad 2, and what they can and cannot do.

The iPad 2 is larger and can run iPad specific iOS programs.

> First, what I understand: The iPod touch is basically a pocket-sized
> device (for a good sized pocket)

Erm.. the iPod touch fits in any pocket I've ever tried, not a 'good sized' 
pocket. Coat, jeans, shirt, etc. In fact, the only pocket I can think of that 
the iPo Touch does not fit in is the little fifth pocket on my Levis.

> Sites that talk "pixels" in CSS are "re-interpreted" by
> Safari to be something reasonable.

Sites that speak pixels in CSS are fundamentally broken and do not understand 
the purpose of CSS, but regardless, Safari on iOS works brilliantly.

> Neither does GPS by itself (only in the "telephone" versions, and then only 
> if you're paying for a data plan).

No. The iPad 2 with the GPS chip does GPS all the time. There is no GPS option 
for the iPod Touch.

> The iPod touch has a single core A4 processor; the iPad 2 has a dual
> core A5. Or, iPod is a little weaker than a G4, while the iPad is a
> little better than a dual G4. (NB: This is probably my biggest mistake
> -- I still have not seen an good comparison of the A4/A5 to any other
> chip).

A4 has nothing to do with G4.

The A5 is a lot faster than the A4, and it is MUCH MUCH faster at processing 
graphics.

> Both run Safari. Neither runs Firefox. Other browsers unknown.

There are quite a few browsers available for iOS. Opera and iCab are two, there 
are many more.

> Neither runs Flash. I don't know if either runs Java.

No Flash, no Java.

> Since neither runs Flash, neither will support Netflix online nor Hulu

Both Netflix and Hulu work just fine on the iPad. In fact, Netflix was one of 
the very first apps for the iPad.

> -- so while they should be good portable TV's/Movie players, they are only 
> really good
> for streaming shows that Apple sells through the iTunes store.

No. This is completely utterly wrong. In addition to Netflix and Hulu, there 
are a lot of other media player apps that will play divx, mkv, and other files. 
I use Air Video myself, which allows me to stream any video in any format off 
my MacPro to my iPad/iPhone. Best $3 I've ever spent.

> Despite the "obvious" match of form and function, neither comes with
> any sort of drawing stylus nor any "sketch" or drawing software.

The iOS devices are not stylus devices, period. There is a lot of drawing and 
sketching software available, some of it free, but no, nothing that is 
installed by default.

> Neither is really designed to save or even edit user documents --

Not at all true. I've edited proofs in Pages many times in the month I've had 
the iPad. I've also used iSSH to login to my servers or home machines and edit 
files from the command line.

> bookmarks are fine, and "read it later" is great for reading stuff,
> but generally no actual user documents exist on either machine. There
> is nothing to save with "Time Machine". iTunes knows how to get user
> settings, preferences, bookmarks, etc, off, and anything you've
> downloaded to one can be moved to another, but that's the entirety of
> "backup" with these machines.

Everything that is on your iOS device would normally be backed up by iTunes 
(and Time Machine) on your Mac.

> "Photos" and "Movies" taken from the
> camera is all the "user documents" these machines understand (and
> iTunes is the only official support for copying those).

Pages saves to Mobile Me or other WebDAV locations, so no, this is not correct.

> Both are intended as reader/viewer devices (books/movies/web), and
> game playing devices. Not as actual "do something" devices.

I do lots on my ipad, so no, this is not correct.

> As the one big exception, Apple sells (granted, $5 is nominal) a video
> editing program, so you can edit the movies you take into a new movie.

You can also edit video in the built-in camera app, albeit to a more limited 
extent than that offered by iMovie. I just did this last night, in fact. Shot a 
short video and emailed it to my brother, but first I cut off the first few 
seconds using the Camera application.

> Can they be "mounted" like a hard drive if plugged into the USB port of a 
> normal
> macintosh?

No.

> How easy is it to move files back and forth?

Not difficult, but not as easy as it could be. DropBox helps a lot.

> Is "iTunes" the only thing that can talk to them?

For all intents and purposes, yes.

> Someone mentioned that there was a "voice to text" app from Dragon for these, 
> based on sending your voice recording to an internet server, and getting text 
> back -- how
> compatible is it with other apps?

Not very.

> Does Google Docs work on either? (I think so -- I thought it was "pure 
> javascript" -- but I want to make sure.). Does it work with that voice to 
> text?

As far as I know, all of GoogleDocs works on iOS, but I rarely use GoogleDocs 
so I could be wrong.

> I know that the iPad 2 has an "On-screen keyboard", and it matches the
> layout of normal keyboards -- in particular, the left hand keys slant
> the wrong way (V, F, and R are struck by the same finger, but the
> slant goes up and to the left while the finger wants to go up and to
> the right).

VFR slant up to the left on all my physical keyboards. What are you talking 
about? The iPad can talk to any recent BT keyboard (BT 2.1 Keyboard Profile, as 
I recall).

> Other than pictures and movies, and downloaded apps, what can I store
> in the 8/32 GB? What do I want the extra 24 GB for?

Music? PDFs? ebooks? comic books in cbz/cbr format? 1Password data file? Pages 
files?

What do you WANT to store on them?

(I went with the 32GB because I like having a lot of apps. About ⅓ of my iPad's 
space is taken up with apps.

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