On 30/08/2011, at 1:54 PM, LuKreme wrote: > Ashley Aitken <[email protected]> squawked out on Monday 29-Aug-2011@20:43:29 >> On 29/08/2011, at 7:33 AM, objectwerks inc wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> no. Any software you buy on the App Store can be installed on any machine >>> you own from your iTunes account. This is part of the deal. And none of >>> the software has user keys. It is all built-in to the store software that >>> you embed in your app to get it on the store. >> >> Yes, this is very enticing (at least for me), BUT this is what we thought as >> well about the iTunes App Store for all your iOS devices (or at least I did) >> and now I am a bit wary about this going forward with iCloud and all. > > Er, what are you talking about? All App Store purchases are usable on ALL > your iOS devices. If you buy angry birds for $0.99 and you own 47 iOS devices > then you can run Angry Birds on all 47 iOS devices for the same $0.99.
IANAL but: > When you first acquire App Store Products, as defined below, (excluding > products acquired from the Mac App Store) or iBookstore Products, as defined > below, through the App and Book Services (collectively, “Eligible Content”) ... > > (i) You may auto-download Eligible Content or download previously-purchased > Eligible Content from an Account on up to 10 Associated Devices, provided no > more than 5 are iTunes-authorized computers. > > (ii) An Associated Device can be associated with only one Account at any > given time. > > (iii) You may switch an Associated Device to a different Account only once > every 90 days. > > (iv) You may download previously-purchased free content onto an unlimited > number of devices while it is free on the App and Book Services, but on no > more than 5 iTunes-authorized computers. > > The above terms (i) to (iv) do not apply to App Store Products. No more than 5 authorised computers, so I guess up to 10 iOS devices? Although the last sentence seems to negate all the above? App Store Products? >> Sure, the software is not DRM'ed (AFAIK), but if you want the benefits of >> App Store Updates (future auto updates - or is that in Lion already) then >> you will probably need to have those Mac logged into the same >> MobileMe/iCloud account. > > The software _IS_ DRMed, and yes, you will have to login to your account in > order to get updates. But you do not have to stay logged in to run the > software (at least notes far as I can tell). So are you saying you cannot take an app downloaded from the Mac App Store and install it on another Mac and run it? That would be news to me. I am not talking about getting auto-updates (although that is the clincher for me anyway) >> And what's to say in the future that Apple doesn't offer the *option* of >> "locked down" Macs for those people who don't *want* the problems of malware >> or having to manage their own Applications etc. Then your apps would be >> defined by your iCloud login. > > Nothing wrong with that, is there? It’s pretty much already here. When you > download an app from the MAS and launch it, it launches. When you download an > app from the Internet, you get a dialog saying “This app was downloaded from > the Internet, are you sure you want to run it?” Sure, but the next step is to allow people to optionally choose not to allow the possibility of installing an app other than those from the MAS. As you have wisely noticed they are almost already there. I wonder what happens if you copy and app onto a Mac - does it warn you that it is new? I think people would choose this option (lockdown except MAS) for simplicity and security and, for example, for children (no unauthorised or no adult apps, or apps that can access adult content. >> I suspect, in the end, every person will be paying once for all the apps >> they use on Macs they use (and similarly for iOS devices). >> >> This is subtly different than paying once for all the apps they use on any >> Macs they manage / control / have access to (and similarly for iOS devices). > > I don’t understand the distinction you are trying to make here. I have 5 macs > currently that can run the Mac App Store; “And Yet it Moves” runs on all five > of those Macs, including the MacBookPro when it is not connected to the > Internet. Sorry, I was referring to the fact that people in my house may want to have their own iCloud accounts (especially if iCloud merges with iTunes), for example so they can sync their own info, photos, have their own account balances, gift card allowances etc. I manage all the Macs in our house but I would hope we could run with different iCloud accounts but still share apps etc. I guess I am really wanting family iCloud/iTunes accounts where magic number is also much greater than 5 or 10 because with two or three devices (inc. iOS) each, and a server or two (old Macs never die they just become servers), it's easy to get to 10+ Cheers, Ashley. _______________________________________________ MacOSX-talk mailing list [email protected] http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
