Speaking personally, I felt immediately at home with auto-save/versioning, 
apart from a couple of times quitting with an unsaved document and being 
concerned that I wasn't prompted to save. 

I guess I didn't manually create versions of documents, relying instead on Time 
Machine backups. Like you posited, I only created a copy when the new one was 
going to be quite a different document, using the old one as a starting point, 
and Duplicate fits right in there. 

On 27 Oct 2011, at 01:38, Ashley Aitken <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 27/10/2011, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote:
> 
>> My wife is beating me up here with her frustration using Pages and 
>> auto-saving/versioning.
> 
> I can feel the pain for your wife (and I am feeling the pain myself).  Lion 
> is a very different way of doing saving/versioning files and I am not sure 
> Apple has got it exactly right yet but I think it is going to be a better 
> way.  I am one of the people who always manually versioned files (made a 
> duplicate and then renamed).  With Lion, hopefully, this is not going to be 
> necessary any more.
> 
>> She's making a lot of minute changes to a layout but found it frustrating 
>> she couldn't go back to her last saved document. 
>> Instead, she has to navigate the version history.
> 
> By last saved version I take it she may mean the last "Save a Version" not 
> the last version that was saved before she "Quit" the application the last 
> time she was working on the document.  In the future, like iOS, I suspect Mac 
> apps won't even have a "Quit" menu action.  That said, I do think Apple could 
> help here.  They should have a way to "Revert to last saved version" or 
> something like that.
> 
> What I mean here is to revert to the last explicitly saved version.  In the 
> future, I think Apple could even allow one to name "saved versions". For 
> example, "Version submitted for printing" or "Version before major changes"  
> The "Revert to ..." menu could then allow you to easily choose one of these 
> "named versions".  The entire version history would be used for an overview 
> or picking a non-named version.
> 
>> She also wants "Save As..."
>> She's not happy with "Duplicate" - since she can't provide a new name.  By 
>> default, you get a "<filename> copy".
> 
> As you noted in a later post, the first time you save a duplicate you get the 
> chance to rename it.  This could be used for saving explicit (named) versions 
> of the original document but I think that approach moves away from the whole 
> idea of versioning a single documnt in Lion.  I think a duplicate is meant to 
> be the start of another document.
> 
>> I'm trying to defend Lion here, but failing.
>> 
>> We haven't found a way to disable auto-save in Pages.
> 
> I wouldn't do that, I would suggest trying to get used to the current 
> approach.  In the long term, perhaps with some tweaks I think it will be a 
> lot better than the old way.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ashley.
> 
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