To find large files there's also: About This Mac -> Storage -> Manage
It's built into macOS. -Carl > On Mar 4, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Jeff Weinberger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Macs R We <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> It sounds like you have two problems at once: your drive is over-full, and >> it's also going bad. It's quite possible that your panics are due to the OS >> not being able to access or write critical runtime information on some >> portion of the drive that it owns. >> >> I can give you some ways to find large files you weren't aware you had and >> would be happy to delete, but it's not going to make your drive work better. >> When your drive gets this sick, contiuing to use it just accelerates the >> damage. Since it looks like you're going to need to buy a new drive anyway, >> I'd just buy a bigger one, hack the transfer, and be done with it. >> > > Thank you for your help. You did guide me to the right places to find this. > > It’s definitely time for a new drive, sadly. > > If you don’t mind offering ways to find some large files, I’d appreciate it. > I will need to clear space even after the new drive. > > Thank you! > >>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:29 PM, Jeff Weinberger <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:56 AM Jeff Weinberger <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 3:47 PM Macs R We <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> I can't give you great instructions because I don't have any panic logs of >>> my own so that I could tell you for sure where to find them. >>> >>> Open Console, click one by one on all the folders and subfolders in the >>> left-hand column (the system-y ones, at any rate, you can skip stuff like >>> Microsoft) looking in the center column for any that start with "panic" and >>> have the right date and time on them. I expect you'll find them somewhere >>> under either /Library/Logs or /var/log. Keep in mind that folders that have >>> subfolders also have logs directly inside them, so don't miss clicking >>> directly on them. >>> >>> If you find an appropriate panic log, right-click on it, choose Reveal in >>> Finder, then copy it to a cloud-accessible location. >>> >>> Thanks. I've done a good bit of searching and there seems to be no "panic" >>> log - only crash reports for individual daemons/tasks. The only information >>> I can find that shows what was happening in the system at the time of the >>> crash is what I posted in my initial email from system.log. >>> >>> For most of the crashes, the only entries in the crash reports seem to be >>> from 'cloudd' - and my iCloud syncing is not working well at all, so I >>> suspect this is the cause. Some other things show up now and then (disk >>> issues with an external drive that might be failing and once or twice, >>> 'ScreenTimeAgent') but not consistenly. Thinking a fresh install of the OS >>> might help. Or it's just all gone flaky. >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Jeff Weinberger <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:49 PM Macs R We <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Most direct thing to do is log into the account that doesn't crash, go >>>> into Console, find the panic log from that crash, and make it available >>>> somewhere where we can look at it. >>>> >>>> Happy to, but pardon my ignorance here. I posted messages from the system >>>> log, but don't know where to find the panic log. If you can help point me >>>> there, I'll post it .If it helps I'm on an iMac (late 2015) running >>>> MacOS11.1. Thank you! >>>> >>>> >>>> I do like the technique of booting from a drive with a virgin OS on it. I >>>> keep one of those, most people don't. >>>> >>>> I don't, sadly. I"m hesitant to erase my internal drive because the data >>>> loss (even with time machine) would be tough, but if nothing else works.... >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Jeff Weinberger <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:17 PM Matt Penna <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> Whenever I encounter such a problem, my first steps are to run Apple >>>>> Hardware Test (AHT), and if that shows no problems (it’s far from >>>>> foolproof), try a completely clean install of the OS to a blank drive. >>>>> See if you can get any clues from either of these steps. >>>>> >>>>> If you need AHT for your Mac, you can find it for many different Mac >>>>> models here on GitHub: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/upekkha/AppleHardwareTest >>>>> <https://github.com/upekkha/AppleHardwareTest> >>>>> >>>>> Let us know how it goes. >>>>> >>>>> You mentioned that occasionally your Mac refuses to start up. Can you >>>>> describe the crashes you’re seeing? Are you getting the gray screen with >>>>> a message that you need to restart your computer, or is it just a reboot >>>>> with no warning? >>>>> >>>>> It actually crashes when I try to log in to my user account. It starts up >>>>> slowly, but does start, then I log in and I get the grey screen that says >>>>> I need to reboot. >>>>> >>>>> I am able to log into an alternate user account, so I don't think it's >>>>> hardware...but I'll give that a try. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Matt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Jeff Weinberger <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your help with SIMBL I removed all traces I could find of >>>>>> it and it no longer appears in logs, crash reports, 'find' commands, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> May I impose on your collective expertise to help diagnose the ongoing >>>>>> crashes? >>>>>> >>>>>> But the system crashes have not stopped. I have identified that it is >>>>>> the user account (I am the only user of the system, so having my user >>>>>> account is kind of important). I only have two use accounts: 1) mine and >>>>>> 2) a test account just in case there's a problem with mine - which there >>>>>> is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Every time I restart and then login to my account my Mac crashes. When I >>>>>> log in to the test account, it is very slow, but successfully logs in >>>>>> and I can do some testing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I noticed some issues with one of my two external drives, so I have >>>>>> disconnected it. The crashes continue. >>>>>> >>>>>> I see from the log files that "cloudd" (the iCloud daemon) crashes very >>>>>> frequently. I don't know if this is relevant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help is appreciated! >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is the system.log file leading up to the last crash: >>> >>> >>> >>> I have made progress, but am not sure how to resolve what seems to be the >>> issue. I see lots of disk access errors leading up to the crashes in >>> system.log. Some are related to the startup disk being full (it's very >>> close to full). The crash logs show lots of crashes for 'ccloud' - the >>> iCloud sync agent. I have my iCloud account set to manage my disk space >>> (moving older files to the cloud when there is little space left), so the >>> disk should never get full. Because I do see new files from my iMac (the >>> one that crashes) on my iPhone/iPad in iCloud, it is syncing files, but I >>> suspect it's crashing trying to move files to the cloud to make space on my >>> local device. >>> >>> So I need to make space without losing files. Is there any way to force >>> iCloud to move specified files to the cloud? I can think of other, more >>> complex, ways to fix this, and would appreciate suggestions. >>> >>> Thank you for all your help! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacOSX-talk mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk >>> <https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk> > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
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