On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:29 AM, Ken Williams wrote:

On Oct 17, 2007, at 10:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:25 PM, brian d foy wrote:

In article <B12928BB-8EB2-48E4- [EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It looks like I will have to stick with debian for developing my LAMP
applications.

If you want to work on the Mac, you still can. It doesn't sound like
you want to though.

It may sound like that to you, but if I didn't want to develop (in perl) on the Mac, why would I bother writing about this at all?

Perhaps brian thought it was odd that you'd refuse to develop on a platform because of the wrong marketing statements, when all the right tools are there for both you and any target users.

I have the deepest respect for brian d foy. I have met him personally in Copenhagen and I think highly of all of his work on behalf of the perl community. That said, I take exception to his rhetorical reply to my post.

If you look carefully, you'll see I said I would have to "stick with debian" when developing my LAMP apps. This means I am trying to replicate my debian environment (Apache 2 with MP2, TT2, other gunk) on my Mac. This requires more work than it should perhaps. Not least because fink is not apt-get and some things are in fink, some are in Macports and some are in neither. I rely on debian sid and apt-get to have the latest software from CPAN, and when it doesn't, I try and package it for debian which is why I am part of the debian-perl team. I am happy to compile from source, but I loose all the work on security and compatibility from upstream when I do - not a good trade off.

When I work on my Mac, I expect everything to "just work." Perhaps this is wrong when it comes to a development environment for the reasons stated in this thread and elsewhere on this list but I thought impatience was virtue for a programmer. In any case, I never refused to develop for the Mac. <Insert snarky emoticon here.>

        Jeremiah

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