At 8:17 AM -0500 2/16/01, Chris Nandor wrote:
>
>
>At 07:45 -0500 02.16.2001, Paul Schinder wrote:
>>At 12:38 +0000 02.16.2001, Alan Fry wrote:
>>>My own feeling is I _would_ like to see it removed. Unencoded
>>>scripts, documents with long lines and/or high-ascii characters
>>>always get mangled along the way. For Mac users 'BinHex' is kind of
>>>the conditioned reflex and for Eudora fans the usual (?) default
>>>setting.
>>
>>It shouldn't be, for just the reasons Ask mentioned.  Just have
>>Eudora use Appledouble.  If that's not the default these days, it
>>should be.  It makes no difference if you're sending to other Mac
>>users, and makes a great difference if you're not.  Don't assume that
>>anyone here is necessarily reading mail under Mac OS.
>
>True; but that said, wouldn't using AppleDouble strip out the resource
>data, if I am reading Ask correctly?  It seems like AppleDouble is fine for
>patches etc., but BinHex better for a small binary attachment.  Unless we
>just say to use AppleDouble/MIME for the list, and request that Ask not
>strip the binary/resource portion for our lists.

No.  If I use mutt on one of my Unix machines to read this list's 
mail, I'll see two attachments.  One is the resource fork, one is the 
data fork.  I know enough not to bother with the resource fork under 
Unix/Linux, but I'll be able to read the data fork quite easily.  If 
it's BinHex, I can't do anything with it.  Ask's filter shouldn't 
strip either attachment, but I'll test that now by attaching a small 
file to this.

Under Mac OS, Eudora will simply combine the two attachments.  I'll 
bet that whatever other Mac mail clients that still exist after 
Outhouse Excess also do this.  (I'll bet even Microsoft gets this 
right, hard as that is to believe.)  Appledouble does The Right Thing 
for everyone, and as I said, should be the default.  (In fact, it 
wouldn't bother me if Eudora dropped BinHex altogether.)

>
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Welcome to MacPerl. This file contains most of the original README file by
Larry Wall. For Mac specific info, turn to README.MAC.

DISREGARD THE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS BELOW

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send any you don't have.  Your current patch level is shown in
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