On 15 Oct 2009, at 23:07, Olivier Le Floch wrote:
The best might be to remind users that call "port sync" that "port
selfupdate" is the "usual" next step in updating ports. i.e. "port
sync" would end by displaying something like
"Portfiles successfully updated. To upgrade installed ports to
their latest versions, please run port selfupdate."
selfupdate doesn't update anything but update MacPorts itself and
the ports tree. If I understood you correctly, they'd then be
running `port upgrade outdated` which still leaves MacPorts itself
not updated.
Oh -_- Right, having higher level scripts that call these commands
automatically made me forget how things worked... People are calling
sync ? I agree then that this isn't ideal, and your solution (sync
works just as selfupdate, with a --portfiles_only option) seems
adequate to me.
If there isn't a consensus on this "merging", however, reminding
users that the "port" command hasn't been upgraded would be a
minimum (fix my end-of-sync sentence above to read "To upgrade the
'port' command, please run 'port selfupdate'." :) ).
However, you do bring up an interesting idea I hadn't considered:
why don't we have a command to do a all-things upgrade? That is
`selfupdate` + `upgrade outdated`?
This has been discussed before (Ryan probably was the clearest on
why we do things this way, iirc). One reason I think was that "port
upgrade" warranted some caution, in particular as to which ports
would be in fact, upgraded, so that many users do
port selfupdate
port outdated
port upgrade outdated (if "port outdated"'s output isn't scary,
else they upgrade only some ports)
this would be the equivalent of other packaging system's
"confirmation before upgrading" dialogs (apt-get, aptitude ask
before upgrading installed software and list the changes that will
be made). This would be a bit more development, and I guess
discussion came to an end there.
I have my own little shell script that does (amongst other things)
sudo port -v selfupdate
sudo port outdated
#sudo port upgrade outdated
#sudo port uninstall -f inactive
echo All Done
The commented lines are because a few versions of Macports ago, if you
tried
sudo port upgrade outdated
and "outdated" was nothing, ie nothing needed upgrading, then there
was a very confusing error message.
But I've just tried it in 1.8.1 and although it could be slightly
better it's not as bad as it once was.
iMac:~ $ sudo port upgrade outdated
Error: No ports matched the given expression
"There are no upgrades available in MacPorts for your installed ports."
is perhaps a clearer message for users in this case.
Mark
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