> On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Ryan Schmidt <ryandes...@macports.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:57 PM, David Epstein <david.epst...@warwick.ac.uk> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks very much for all your work on my issue: much appreciated.
>> 
>> However, it’s looking like too much manual work, and also somewhat 
>> hazardous, at least to me as a non-expert. Moreover, I have no confidence 
>> that everything will be consistent, even if I successfully and correctly 
>> manually delete a number of symlinks, regular files and directories from 
>> /opt/local. Rather than spend more time on the problem, I will now move 
>> /opt/local to /opt/local.old and start again from scratch.
> 
> If you like, but that sounds like a lot of work to me. It didn't sound like 
> there was anything particularly wrong with your old MacPorts installation, 
> aside from a few broken symlinks created by port select, and maybe one or two 
> other broken symlinks whose origins I'm not sure of yet. For example, 
> libpng.la should not have existed on your system, if your OS is Mavericks or 
> later.
> 
> 
>> It will be nice to have a clean installation that I don’t need to work on. 
>> I'm hoping that everything I need will install without error messages, but 
>> maybe that is overoptimistic.
>> 
>> I will avoid using “port select”  on my new installation, until I get the 
>> go-ahead that the problems have been researched and sorted. I’m not sure if 
>> I am allowed to put my name on some kind of cc list for the ticket, since 
>> I’m not intending to work on the problem, but only want to know when it has 
>> gone away.
> 
> There's no need to avoid using "port select", if you want the functionality 
> it provides. It just doesn't automatically remove its symlinks if you later 
> uninstall the port you had asked "port select" to select. Until we fix that, 
> remember to "port select GROUP none", where GROUP is the name of the select 
> group.

And certainly you can Cc yourself on any tickets you're interested in 
following, by clicking the ticket's CcMe! button.



>> I do not understand the issues involved and their ramifications, so I may be 
>> saying something stupid, but it seems to me, as a naive user, that this 
>> reveals a rather bad design fault in “port select”. An "available version" 
>> should either be “none” or the true name of an installed port. I realize 
>> that resources  to fix things are scarce, but could the ability to choose a 
>> random name at least be acknowledged as bad practice, and could a ticket be 
>> provided for work to be done so that this behaviour becomes impossible?
> 
> I think we don't consider this to be a design fault, but a feature. In other 
> words, it was not a mistake that the select group entry can differ from a 
> port; it was a deliberate decision to allow that. As has been pointed out, we 
> want to be able to select things that are part of macOS and are not provided 
> by a port.
> 
> I agree that some of the select group entry names we've chosen are not 
> optimal in the way in which they differ from the name of the port they 
> provide. It might be a pain to fix that at this late date.

Maybe we could also display the name of the port, if any, that provides each 
select group entry.

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