Hi Laurent,
sorry for the way it goes in this thread, but everything started with question 
"can we move to a different VCS?" (It was not my question). I said other then 
SVN or CVS is not possible if mostly here all are stuck with/to Xcode. Then I 
got a stupid answer to use XC4 then. But which is not available for normal 
guys.Now anybody tries to be smarter and tell me "you don't need ...", "you 
can subscribe ...", "don't show me your tools ..." and many more of that none 
question answering stuff.
All what I wanted is to here how can we go to a modern VCS if the most people 
here use Xcode. All what I receive (after I told what I think about Xcode and 
none paying anything for a developer subscription) is something like "nil".
Maybe we should rewind everything before the question about another VCS started 
and then I come back and try see if the world could be bigger then this here 
actually looks like.
Cheers
PS:What do I need to do to get a Email moderated that was send some weeks ago 
to this mailing list? I received an auto generated answer that told me my Email 
is to huge and one of the moderator needs to do something with it. It was about 
an MacRuby crash with crash log and some screen shots.
--- Laurent Sansonetti <lsansone...@apple.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:

Von: Laurent Sansonetti <lsansone...@apple.com>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0
An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org>
Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 22:23 Uhr

Hi Denny,
I don't understand how the thread ended up like this, but you do not need to 
pay anything to develop with MacRuby. All you need is a copy of Xcode 3, which 
comes free with Mac OS X. If you don't have your DVDs handy, you can download 
it for free on developer.apple.com.
Once Xcode 3 is installed in your Mac, just install MacRuby and you should be 
done. 
Xcode 4 is a different version, it's still in beta so we cannot discuss it here 
until it's fully released.
It is also possible to develop with MacRuby without Xcode at all, as Dave 
mentioned. 
Laurent
On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:55 AM, denny trebbin wrote:
Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way.I am neither and iOS developer nor an 
Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent 
stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. 
I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use 
OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected 
to much.
--- Travis Kay <proto...@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:

Von: Travis Kay
 <proto...@gmail.com>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0
An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org>
Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr

You need a paid developer subscription.

Travis

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ?My none paid account allows me only to 
download XC3 :-)
--- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-de...@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 
1.12.2010:


Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-de...@slofith.org>

Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0
An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org
Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr


> From: Caio Chassot <li...@caiochassot.com>
> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:

>> 
>> GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) 
>> doesn't
 really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will 
stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed 
source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I 
tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with 
Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN

> 
> How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?

mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, 
so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...


http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor


cheers

Russell


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