What Matt said, but also in the event you have trouble with the mailing list or 
any other infrastructure, email ad...@macosforge.org, and if that doesn't work, 
email me. 

-Bill


On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Matthew Ratzloff wrote:

> It's a mailing list.  Don't send attachments, please.  File a ticket
> or put them online and link to them instead.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> On Saturday, December 4, 2010, denny trebbin <dra_k_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Laurent,
>> sorry for the way it goes in this thread, but everything started with 
>> question "can we move to a different VCS?" (It was not my question). I said 
>> other then SVN or CVS is not possible if mostly here all are stuck with/to 
>> Xcode. Then I got a stupid answer to use XC4 then. But which is not 
>> available for normal guys.Now anybody tries to be smarter and tell me "you 
>> don't need ...", "you can subscribe ...", "don't show me your tools ..." and 
>> many more of that none question answering stuff.
>> All what I wanted is to here how can we go to a modern VCS if the most 
>> people here use Xcode. All what I receive (after I told what I think about 
>> Xcode and none paying anything for a developer subscription) is something 
>> like "nil".
>> Maybe we should rewind everything before the question about another VCS 
>> started and then I come back and try see if the world could be bigger then 
>> this here actually looks like.
>> Cheers
>> PS:What do I need to
>> do to get a Email moderated that was send some weeks ago to this mailing 
>> list? I received an auto generated answer that told me my Email is to huge 
>> and one of the moderator needs to do something with it. It was about an 
>> MacRuby crash with crash log and some screen shots.
>> --- Laurent Sansonetti <lsansone...@apple.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:
>> 
>> Von: Laurent Sansonetti <lsansone...@apple.com>
>> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0
>> An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org>
>> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 22:23 Uhr
>> 
>> Hi Denny,
>> I don't understand how the thread ended up like this, but you do not need to 
>> pay anything to develop with MacRuby. All you need is a copy of Xcode 3, 
>> which comes free with Mac OS X. If you don't have your DVDs handy, you can 
>> download it for free on developer.apple.com.
>> Once Xcode 3 is installed in your Mac, just install MacRuby and you should 
>> be done.
>> Xcode 4 is a different version, it's still in beta so we cannot discuss it 
>> here until it's fully released.
>> It is also possible to develop with MacRuby without Xcode at all, as Dave 
>> mentioned.
>> Laurent
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:55 AM, denny trebbin wrote:
>> Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way.I am neither and iOS developer nor 
>> an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform 
>> independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and 
>> learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice 
>> possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple 
>> JDK. Sorry if I expected to much.
>> --- Travis Kay <proto...@gmail.com 
>> <http://mc/compose?to=proto...@gmail.com>> schrieb am Fr,
>> 3.12.2010:
>> 
>> Von: Travis Kay
>> <proto...@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=proto...@gmail.com>>
>> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0
>> An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org>
>> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr
>> 
>> You need a paid developer subscription.
>> 
>> Travis
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ?My none paid account allows me only 
>> to download XC3 :-)
>> --- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-de...@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 
>> 1.12.2010:
>> 
>> Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-de...@slofith.org>
>> 
>> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0
>> An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org
>> Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Caio Chassot <li...@caiochassot.com 
>>> <http://mc/compose?to=li...@caiochassot.com>>
>>> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, 
>>>> IMO) doesn't
>> really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system 
>> will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not 
>> distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to 
>> MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write 
>> code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
>>> 
>>> How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
>> 
>> mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at 
>> apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
>> 
>> http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
>> 
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Russell
>> 
>> -----
>> Russell Muetzelfeldt <ru...@slofith.org 
>> <http://mc/compose?to=ru...@slofith.org>>
>> Mundus vult decipi, ergo
>> decipiatur.
>> 
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