Greetings, Hell, I spend most of my time in Java, and I find the objc verbosity to be...uhhh...pretty familiar. ;)
Joking aside, I'll often take common ObjC patterns and 're-do' them the Ruby way so they're more efficient to the way my brain works. As an example from a recent bit of code, you have: NSArray *dropTypes = [NSArray* *arrayWithObjects:"BookmarkDictionaryListPboardType", "MozURLType", NSFilenamesPboardType, NSURLPboardType, NSStringPboardType, nil]; versus dropTypes = ["BookmarkDictionaryListPboardType", "MozURLType", NSFilenamesPboardType, NSURLPboardType, NSStringPboardType] The first is remarkably flexible in rare cases, but exceptionally annoying for the common case. To try and answer the questions, though... - What are the advantages of MacRuby over Objective-C? - An easy to learn, concise syntax in a language designed for the pleasure of programming but with enough power for all but the toughest problems - Being interpreted means you can try things very quickly, and not have to go through a compile cycle for each time you just want to see how something works. - A ton of 'gem' libraries that do very cool things in natural way - What are the advantage of O-C over Ruby? - Compiled, so marginally faster (although MacRuby's compilation is getting better) - All the examples of doing MacOS X programming out there are in Objective C, so you have to translate - A decent number of native libraries which, while you can use them in MacRuby, are easier to use in Objective C - *iOS programming* - Is Xcode's support for O-C significantly better than it's handling of Ruby? Do I care? - Yes, it is better. No, I don't find it better enough that I care very much. Symbol completion doesn't work great in MacRuby, but it doesn't bother me much. - At this point I'm primarily interested in OS X development, but iOS clearly needs to run a close second. What's the current status of Ruby development for iOS and is it likely to go anywhere in the nearish future? - The garbage-collection requirement makes this a non-starter right now. It might get better, *it might not.* I do iOS programming in Objective C, and Mac OS X programming in MacRuby. It helps me keep my hand in Objective C development, so I'm always able to translate between Objective C and MacRuby, while letting me build a desktop app in my favorite language of all time, so far. :) - Any thoughts on the longer-term prospects of either language? - Ruby itself is likely to remain a strong contender for many years. MacRuby has just started being shipped, albiet as a private framework, by Apple. This bodes well, but as the Java OS X developers can tell you with a touch of sadness...things change. Hope that helps some! -- Morgan
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