Hi Bryan,

I see that many people responded to that thread, but I would like to still add 
the following points:

1) MacRuby can't be used for iOS programming at this time.

2) In order to fully program in Objective-C, you must know C first. If you're a 
seasoned C programmer, picking Objective-C should just take a couple days 
(maximum). Otherwise, you will have to learn C before, which can be 
challenging, especially if you come from PHP. Ruby, the language MacRuby 
implements, is _much_ easier to learn. Using Cocoa from MacRuby does not 
require you to master Objective-C, you basically just need to learn about 
Objective-C classes and methods and how to use them in Ruby, then you can spend 
the rest of your time learning the Cocoa APIs. There is plenty of documentation 
available, including 2 books (currently being written) on this very specific 
topic :)

HTH,
Laurent

On Mar 30, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Bryan Harrison wrote:

> I've decided to use an upcoming sabbatical to teach myself OS X and iOS 
> programming.  My background includes OS X systems administration and web 
> development, mostly using the Apache/MySQL/PHP model.  I'm familiar with OOP 
> concepts and have trifled with any number of languages from C to AppleScript, 
> but am not fluent in any object oriented language.  I've been exploring Xcode 
> 4 for a week and feel conversant with the IDE if not yet able to accomplish 
> anything with it.
> 
> So…  I understand that Cocoa is a given, but today's million dollar question 
> is Objective-C or MacRuby?  I'm a blank slate with regard to both and so 
> could use some good advice.  For example…
> 
> What are the advantages of MacRuby over Objective-C?
> 
> What are the advantage of O-C over Ruby?
> 
> Is Xcode's support for O-C significantly better than it's handling of Ruby?  
> Do I care?
> 
> At this point I'm primarily interested in OS X development, but iOS clearly 
> needs to run a close second.  What's the current status of Ruby development 
> for iOS and is it likely to go anywhere in the nearish future?
> 
> Any thoughts on the longer-term prospects of either language?
> 
> Any thoughts from anybody will be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
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