On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Terry Moore wrote: > Well it would appear that Macruby is just not ready for real development. > > I for one have some faith that Macruby is good enough now and will be > language of choice in the future. > > There are no barriers to you mixing external frameworks or adding objc > classes. > > Ruby as a language has many features that you can grow into that objc doesn't > ( meta programming).
This has come up more than once today. ObjC is capable of a lot more meta-programming than people are giving it credit for. The Objective-C runtime is, afterall, what MacRuby is built on. However, Ruby's meta-programming support is significantly simpler, making it easier to both use and abuse :) > > If you use a standard version of ruby there is nothing to stop even a c > hacker using 'the latest' libraries and putting a simple wrapper on. > > Ruby has become an umbrella for all my work from admin support to web > development. And now with macruby I have desktop apps for Mac. > > Not forgetting jruby of course for any java fans and others like ruinous. > > > So yes on a serious note I would recommend everyone go learn c as a minimum. > But if you just want to have some serious fun go mad with ruby/macruby. The > learning will come by doing. > > Terry Moore > > On 31/03/2011, at 11:41 PM, "Thomas R. Koll" <i...@ananasblau.com> wrote: > >> >> Am 31.03.2011 um 10:26 schrieb Jean-Denis Muys: >>> >>> I will be blunt: stay away from MacRuby and go with Objective-C. >> >> I say, if you don't know either Ruby or Objective-C yet, stay away from >> MacRuby. >> >> All those ruby dev who like me are most likely coming from webdevelopment, >> dive into this new world of desktop applications. It's a fascinating world. >> >> >>> - Less applicable resources for learning: less examples, less books, less >>> blog posts, less people to help you out. >> >> Which is great if you are able and willing to fill those gaps. >> Open Source is not only about using what exists but also to >> add something new to it. >> Over time you will get deeper and more profund understanding. >> >> >>> Now the MacRuby journey might taste a lot better, depending on you. And if >>> for you "the reward is the _journey_", you might consider it. >> >> +1 >> >> >>> - One thing is for sure: demand for iOS Ruby programmers is zero. >> >> Which might be subject to change. >> Don't forget, the only two things keeping MacRuby from iOS is >> the lack of a garbage collector and the App Store policy about >> programming languages. >> Both in the hands of Apple, just like MacRuby itself. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacRuby-devel mailing list >> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >> http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel > _______________________________________________ > MacRuby-devel mailing list > MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org > http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
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