additionally..
Macruby and rubymotion ( fork? ) are great for cocoa/ios but lack support for 
many MRI ruby gems out there... (amqp...rails )

I have been burnt on this a number of times...

Terry

On 22/05/2013, at 5:30 PM, Henry Maddocks <henry.maddo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On 19/05/2013, at 8:04 PM, david kramf <dakr....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Francis,
>> I know nothing about RubyMotion but if I understand correctly it uses a 
>> compiler and not an interpreter. So I doubt if it can implement 
>> Metaprogramming and Reflection. If it does not , then it is not a Ruby . It 
>> might be an excellent language but not Ruby.
> 
> RubyMotion supports most metaprogramming and reflection constructs. The fact 
> that it is compiled has nothing to do with it.
> 
>> To the best of my understanding Ruby is a very well defined language 
>> supported by a large community and works in what seems to me ( I know Ruby 
>> for no more than a year) in a very orderly way.
> 
> This is not the case. There is no specification for Ruby, a fact that is a 
> concern for those trying to develop alternative implementations. Rubyspec is 
> a defacto spec but it isn't official, or complete.
> 
> There has also been a lot of discussion in the community recently about the 
> haphazard way that Ruby seems to be developed. Personally I don't have a 
> problem with Matz's leadership, but a lot of people do.
> 
> Henry
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