Re: Pls help: Special signs on macOS with voiceover

[William Windels]

Hey Jonathan,  Thx for the suggestion. This is wat I ment as second option. Since The option-keys are already assigned in the keboard-commander, I prefer not to use this way but holding the letters a,e,i,o,u and then chose the sign I want. But I can't activate that window. Thx for any further answer. Mvg  William windels Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 5 jul 2025 om 01:39 heeft Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven: Hi! For “ë”  press option u voiceover will then say ¨ then press a vowel and the Mac will convert it to a umlaut accented vowel. This has been true for over 20 years at least for US English keyboards. I expect if you switch to German keyboard layout the umlaut is already a dedicated key. Jonathan Jonathan On Jul 3, 2025, at 4:57 PM, William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, On macos 15.5 , I want to write trema -signs souch as ï and ë. I see 2 options for that: 1. Type a, e, i, o, u and hold the key with the corresponding letter. There will be a window will popup to chose which of this options I want to choose. The problem Is that I can’t activate that window to choose  the option I want also not with vo+fn+shift+2 (qwerty) to bring the window with the voiceover-cursor on the foreground. 2. A second option is to hold the option-key with a or e or i or o or u and each of this letters give another option of the letters a, e, i , o , u like î  or é. This last option is not my prefference since I use the both option-keys in the keyboard-commander. Thx for suggestions to let option 1 work. Kind regards, William Windels This is not what I prefer  -- William Windels Het Kamp 24, 9050 Gentbrugge william.wind...@gmail.com, 0477884276 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com   The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53887262-A318-48FB-B658-C7072B00D67F%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com   The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0BEC90B1-193E-4B76-BBDE-9570DDEBB0BD%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com   The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3273CBEF-2368-4C7B-B751-4557FB093361%40gmail.com.