Hmm, I've read what's below and can't see anywhere that I say it's not
a bug. I'm on the side of the fence that thinks it is, so perhaps we
got our wires crossed.


On 3/12/09, David Poehlman <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com> wrote:
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> no, all I said was it is not a bug which you seem to agree with below.
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> On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
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>
> True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
> reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
> no harm done.
> Agreed efficiency often takes longer to materialise than basic access,
> but the point in this case I think is that this is efficiency that's
> regressed.  It's no biggy because there is an obvious workaround, but
> at least making sure it's brought to Apple's attention will do nobody
> any harm.  Or did I miss something?
>
> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
> wrote:
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>> Scott,
>> It might have been sacrificed for better accessibility in other areas.
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>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
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>> How not out of interest?
>> Not meaning to be argumentative, I just don't really see a way that
>> this could be by design and be useful to anyone.
>>
>> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> bug well, maybe not.
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
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>>>
>>> True you can indeed use VO keys to do your work until this is fixed,
>>> but at the end of the day a bug is a bug is it not, it's still worth
>>> reporting.  One of the things I like about OS X is that there's
>>> always
>>> more than one way to skin a cat, and this is one way that eventually
>>> needs to work.
>>>
>>> While I'm hear, Jacob, have you tried turning off genius to see if
>>> that affects anything?
>>>
>>> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> so they missed again, folks, relax, you can use the vo keys to do
>>>> your
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:18 AM, william lomas wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> well lol i keep hearing new accessibility issues are improved but
>>>> what
>>>> about that damn downloads window? especially if buyin or renting a
>>>> movie, i can't see the progress?
>>>>
>>>> On 12 Mar 2009, at 05:24, Scott Rutkowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HI David.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK basically i've tried with different views such as grid view text
>>>>> view
>>>>> being focused on different parts of the source list and when i tab
>>>>> past the
>>>>> search field you can't tab to the songs table and other then this
>>>>> the new
>>>>> iTunes is fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> still trying to work out what the iTunes dj is for so if anyone
>>>>> knows how it
>>>>> works or can shed some light on it let us all know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure the tab key is broken in iTunes because even turning off
>>>>> cursor
>>>>> tracking and looking through the view menu makes no difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: The new iTunes, accessibility issues?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry, we need more.  if I do as you describe, I get search,
>>>>>> sources
>>>>>> and songs as I tab through.  You might try turning the browser on,
>>>>>> setting your view to grid, any number of things to see if you can
>>>>>> lick
>>>>>> this.  what source is selected when you see this issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>>>> I wanted to ask this here before I write to Apple, in case it's
>>>>>> something odd about my setup. Along with the accessibility
>>>>>> improvements in iTunes 8.1 I'm seeing some very serious issues.
>>>>>> Chief
>>>>>> among them is that, while tabbing still moves through controls
>>>>>> properly, Voiceover will not stay in sync while tabbing. I can
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> use the VO cursor to get around and, as I use tab to quickly jump
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the song list to the media browser, for me this is a serious
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>> Before I report this as a problem to Apple, can anyone here
>>>>>> duplicate
>>>>>> it? Simply go into iTunes and start tabbing around, if Voiceover
>>>>>> doesn't announce the controls you're tabbing to after the first
>>>>>> one,
>>>>>> you've duplicated it. I don't want to report a bug if it's
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> on my system only, as that would more than likely mean I've got
>>>>>> another issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, and sorry for cross-posting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a
>>>>>> thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that
>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>> possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get at or repair.
>>>>>> --Douglas Adams
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