Hi there,

One other thing enters the accessibility equation. Carbon, or legacy
Apple controls, are not accessible either. This is why the rewrite of
the entire Mac OS X and applications in Cocoa is so great. It uses the
modern controls and development framework.

...b

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> My understanding is that if the developer uses standard user interface
> widgets then those expose accessibility information to VO (more or less)
> automatically. That implies that Microsoft has implemented their own custom
> controls for Office but did not implement the communication to the Apple
> Accessibility API. So if you do try to run MS Word you'll find the pull-down
> menus (Apple UI stuff) are accessible but the rest (Microsoft custom stuff)
> is not. This is a rather poor showing from 3.5 years of development work at
> Microsoft since the Apple APIs were well known and others (Open Office) have
> shown it can be done. In addition, it's been over a year (January 15, 2008)
> since Office 2008 was released with no changes in accessibility, so there
> appears to be no movement or desire to fix the problems. I did have dinner
> with the Microsoft accessibility manager for IE at CSUN and asked him about
> Office for Mac. All he could do was give a long sad sigh and say it wasn't
> right, but it wasn't his bailiwick to malign another division's products.
>
> CB
>
> Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
> I thought VO was compatible with all office products under leopard?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney
> Sent: Saturday, 14 March 2009 9:41 p.m.
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Need a Spreadsheet Program
>
>
> All speadsheet programs will open CSV files. MS Office/Excel is not
> accessible or compatible with VoiceOver but OpenOffice, Apple Numbers and
> Tables are.
>
> Greg
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> If apple don't then they do support
> Ms office / excel and that will handle csv files.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tiffany D
> Sent: Friday, 13 March 2009 11:10 a.m.
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Need a Spreadsheet Program
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm looking for a program that can handle csv files.  I've never used
> a spreadsheet in my life so have no clue what it's like.  So please,
> the simpler the better.  I basically just need to go through the
> records and enter information.  I think Apple makes software for this
> but don't know how accessible it is or what it's called.  Btw, I also
> need to be able to save it so that it can be viewed on a Windows machine.
>
> Thanks,
> Tiffanitsa
>
>
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> >
>

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