Hi,

But if it is introduced in SL, Leopard users won't get it. What I  
prepose is that the FF team use my hack for Leopard and possibly  
native support in SL.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 13-Apr-09, at 10:37 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:

> Good afternoon,
>
> Nice to know that there is a way to cause an application to speak.   
> But, as far as accessibility goes, it is, as Alex mentioned, a  
> hack.  It would be nice if there was a way to notify UA that an  
> application has an updated region that requires announcement /  
> monitoring.
>
> Thanks for the reference,
> Everett
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> On 13-Apr-09, at 1:56 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> I suspect they are using the mac speech synthesis manager method  
>> called SpeakString
>>
>> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Speech_Synthesis_Manager/Reference/reference.html#/
>>  
>> /apple_ref/c/func/SpeakString
>>
>> I can try to find out if you really want to know.
>>
>> BTW, I heard there are some bugs in the say command. For example  
>> try doing
>>
>> say bullfrog
>> say bullfrogs
>>
>> It gets the singular and plural switched around.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>>>
>>> Good afternoon,
>>>
>>> I wonder if AIM is doing this through the API, or through the  
>>> system Say command.
>>>
>>>
>>> Everett
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>>> On 13-Apr-09, at 1:04 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm. The AOL AIM client speaks incoming text if you turn that  
>>>> option on in preferences so I would suspect any application can  
>>>> do it. The only limitation of the VO APIs I know of is that you  
>>>> can't detect if VO is on or not which is probably a nod to  
>>>> Apple's Universal Design philosophy.
>>>>
>>>> CB
>>>>
>>>> E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe, from what I have read about Firefox accessibility
>>>>> challenges, that implementing aria live region support in any  
>>>>> browser
>>>>> will require changes to be made to the Apple accessibility API.   
>>>>> There
>>>>> is currently no way for applications to "alert" the OS that  
>>>>> something
>>>>> needs to be spoken.  Maybe in Snow Leopard, not holding my breath.
>>>>>
>>>>> This change might  also make it possible to tweak the  
>>>>> accessibility
>>>>> problems of some applications.  Imagine if instant message clients
>>>>> could automatically read messages that are posted or allow users  
>>>>> to
>>>>> easily read back through the message log with a keystroke.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Everett
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>>>>>
>>>>> On 13-Apr-09, at 12:52 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The main thing I'm looking for in an ARIA enabled browser is  
>>>>>> support
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> live regions. This is where a spot on the page is set up such  
>>>>>> that any
>>>>>> changes to that spot are automatically announced. This is a great
>>>>>> way to
>>>>>> implement web-based chat, stock tickers and other real-time data
>>>>>> feeds.
>>>>>> Unfortunately it appears that Safari 4 Beta does not yet  
>>>>>> support live
>>>>>> regions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just briefly tested http://search.yahoo.com/ with Safari 4  
>>>>>>> beta's
>>>>>>> ARIA
>>>>>>> support.  I didn't spend much time on the site, but the search
>>>>>>> suggestions were accessible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Go to the site
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Navigate to the search field
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Type in part of a search query
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Use VO + Up and Down arrows to read through the suggestions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd lov to hear others' experiences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Everett
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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