Just want to set the record straight. Not that I care about Mobile  
SPeak, but you no longer have to pay a transfer fee. You can move the  
license from one phone to another via the setup program.
On Jul 19, 2009, at 6:33 AM, patrickneazer wrote:

> Hello Simon and all:
>
> One question you might want to consider is the issue of  
> expandability. I am a user of a nokia 6650 with Mobile Speak and I  
> love it. However, the number of applications that will work with it  
> is not as robust as the Iphone. Second, while both my Mobile Speak  
> and voiceover upgrades are free, the method of upgrading is quite  
> different. I do not know about talks because I have never used it.  
> However, if it is anything like Mobile Speak I cannot upgrade it  
> independently. The only reason I make a point of this is the ability  
> of being able to keep up with the latest updates to a system rather  
> than being one step behind. Furthermore, does it make sense to have  
> to pay a transfer cost if you either lose your phone or decide you  
> want or need a new one. In the case of Mobile Speak, if you change  
> phones for whatever reason there is a transfer cost. I do not know  
> how it works with Talks. If I want another Iphone I just get another  
> Iphone without incurring any additional costs for things beyond my  
> control which may have resulted in the phone's loss or just for the  
> freedom of wanting something different.
>
> There are a few more reasons I can mention though I will point out  
> only one more ... with this arrangement of the Iphone and AT&T, the  
> entire customer service flow is for the first time under one roof.  
> If I have a problem with the Iphone I am able to take it to AT&T and  
> they can be of assistance without necessarily farming it out to  
> someone else and if they do farm it out to someone else ... that  
> would be Apple and they would know that I am on the way (smile).  
> With Mobile Speak it could be a mobile speak issue which I would  
> have to go to Code Factory, it could be a phone problem where Nokia  
> would have to be called in, it could be a billing problem where the  
> Phone company would have to be tapped and, if I had a problem with  
> the actual purchase of Mobile Speak and I did not purchase it from  
> Code Factory I then would have to deal with AT&T's office of  
> national disability concerns which is a completely separate  
> operation from AT&T. I like the one umbrella that the Iphone has the  
> potential to provide. I have both and love both and see the  
> advantages to each.
>
> Just my two cents contributed to the discussion. No matter what your  
> final conclusion, it will be a good one.
>
> Take good care.
> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour  
>> today and
>> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity.
>> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones system  
>> is not
>> as efficient  yet as I would have hoped.
>>
>> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I shouldn't  
>> change
>> to one at this point,  and the only reason so far is that my n82 does
>> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
>>
>>
>> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
>> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
>> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
>> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in to  
>> this
>> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a slow
>> growth to understanding product rather than something that can be
>> quickly affixed.
>> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are
>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users.
>>>
>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a
>>> totally blind
>>> person.
>>>
>>> I'm total  and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility
>>> against
>>> my Nokia s60 device.
>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't
>>> say I'm
>>> fixed on it yet.
>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Simonf.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>
> Love
>
> Me
>
>
> >


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