oh yeah that's right.
That's how I started moving my mail columns.
JIm

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, jim, VO-shift-backslash moves to column headers. VO-backslash opens the 
> triangle.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
> 
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Jim Gatteys <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> isn't the correct keystroke vo-shift-backslash?
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Jon,
>>> 
>>> Has nothing to do with the large email file I am going through as that is 
>>> just a file on this computer and I don't even have gmail on this computer 
>>> anymore. It is definitely mac mail and a bug as for the last ten minutes I 
>>> was trying to collapse a conversation with 4 messages in it, and kept 
>>> dinging and dinging and wouldn't collapse so I toggled off vo and back on 
>>> and then finally left arrow collapsed the conversation. I still have yet to 
>>> get VO back slash to actually open or collapse a conversation so am pretty 
>>> sure it is a bug that is not affecting everyone. Really frustrating.
>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:10 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I wonder if it has to do with the size of the mail you are still going 
>>>> through?  If you close down mail and use the Mac, does it still occur?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, [email protected]
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> John it is a system wide thing just did another restart so hopefully it 
>>>>> will stop happening quite frustrating as you can imagine.
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:03 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Where is this happening?  I have not had any problems with sounds on an 
>>>>>> iMac 2012, Mac Mini 2011 or Mac Book Pro 2012 Retina.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>> Email, [email protected]
>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Curious if anyone else is having this issue. All of the sudden you lose 
>>>>>>> all sounds in Mavericks 10.9.2 meaning when you go to the end box and 
>>>>>>> normally get your error sound like a bonk letting you know you are at 
>>>>>>> the newest message instead of the bonk you get VO just repeating the 
>>>>>>> name of the message instead of the sound. I know this is an error or 
>>>>>>> bug as if I cycle VO off and back on I get the sounds back and it will 
>>>>>>> work for awhile and then stop. Also as soon as I lose the sounds I have 
>>>>>>> also noticed that keyboard commander stops working meaning if I hit 
>>>>>>> command z the key I have set to bring up mail nothing happens, but if I 
>>>>>>> cycle VO off and on keyboard commander again starts to work and command 
>>>>>>> z will bring up my mail.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am also having a severe lag in typing but only when in mail it is 
>>>>>>> really behind what I am typing and very sluggish. Curious to know if 
>>>>>>> anyone else is experiencing any of this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
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