Yes, you can navigate with it. In fact it has hundreds of commands for each of your applications that allow you to execute various commands. I believe you can even create your own. On Mar 9, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes I did. > > A question to Dragon users: can you navigate? In Windows, for instance, you > can say "press button" or "move up four" or "press tab". Can Dragon on the > mac do this kind of thing, or is it restricted to dictation only? > On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Brandon Olivares <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Did you allow access to the accessibility features of your computer? In >> security settings, select privacy, then Accessibility, and check Dragon >> Dictate. This fixed it for me. >> On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate >>> anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, or >>> anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited >>> version of the full program, so in theory I should have full access to all >>> features. Either way, just dictating would be more than I can do now. >>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Maurice Mines <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> That afternoon, now then reading this message again you >>>> installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full version >>>> do not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the trial if you >>>> can make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however once the >>>> product is installed the screens leading you through the training work for >>>> the most part one just has to interact with much of the training materials >>>> as they are based in a funny type of HTML. But overall I found them to be >>>> usable. The other thing you might want to know is that Dragon uses the >>>> TextEdit interface in order to store its text before you transfer it into >>>> an application. Although this is very confusing to a voiceover user. I >>>> would strongly suggest that when using the application used to set up >>>> whatever profile you're going to use and pick from the options in the >>>> speech menu. For instance, I prefer to start my dictation from a sleep >>>> state. This way I can isolate the Dragon functions from the voiceover >>>> functions. But if one wanted to one could start the microphone immediately >>>> by any least microphone on selection for instance. And these all in very >>>> different windows. The best way I know of to keep track of things, if you >>>> can is get a braille display and certainly keep looking at it at all times >>>> because the bell displays can assure you where the cursor is the most part >>>> in Michigan figure voiceovers burial preferences differently. They stated >>>> (if not tried version for yet. But I'm guessing that it is much like >>>> version 3 so once it is installed a blind person should not have many >>>> problems with it. >>>> >>>> We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product >>>> virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I >>>> mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. Have >>>> a good rest of the evening. >>>> >>>> Sincerely Maurice mines. >>>> student accessibility aid. >>>> Voicemail phone 360-524-0791. >>>> School/work email address, [email protected]. >>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few >>>>> weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was >>>>> there. I could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. >>>>> Yes, I enabled it in my security settings. >>>>> >>>>> As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This >>>>> person has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies on >>>>> speech commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, true. >>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I >>>>>> think we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. >>>>>> Most people it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually >>>>>> have verified written expression disorders and other disabling >>>>>> conditions that require the use of dragon would be helpful to make >>>>>> certain that we keep those people than mine. Personally I do use Dragon >>>>>> because of the above-mentioned written expression disorder. I've only >>>>>> used version three until five have had no real problems with voiceover. >>>>>> But I also use a braille wdisplay separate from my normal computing >>>>>> experience. I know that there is some concern about being able to use >>>>>> the product by telling it what to do as far as screen motion I think >>>>>> though that you run the risk of entangling with VoiceOver and that could >>>>>> lead to some headaches. When I get the chance I will actually use >>>>>> version four and will see how good or bad it is with VoiceOver. The >>>>>> concerns that Dragon is inaccessible are not true. I have not had any >>>>>> problems using it after making a few modifications they are minor. The >>>>>> biggest thing one needs to remember is one should use the headset and >>>>>> keep voiceover and Dragon separate as far as >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, Maurice Mines. >>>>>> Student accessibility aid. >>>>>> Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. >>>>>> Work/school email address, [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. I >>>>>>> haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice >>>>>>> commands to move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and >>>>>>> tables, I don't see the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does >>>>>>> well. That said, Dragon learns as you correct it, whereas the mac does >>>>>>> not, and Dragon is (from reviews I've read) more accurate even out of >>>>>>> the box, with no training. If you have problems with the keyboard, look >>>>>>> at Dragon, but be sure to test if for accessibility and the features >>>>>>> you will need. If you need basic dictation and will not be dictating >>>>>>> exclusively, I'd save my money. Those are just my thoughts. >>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis >>>>>>>> for both speech recognition systems. Given that Mac Dictate can now be >>>>>>>> loaded directly on the Mac for continuous speech recognition, Dragon >>>>>>>> would most likely only be beneficial if one needed to use more >>>>>>>> granulated Command and Control rather than just speech dictation >>>>>>>> recognition. That said, I have no idea how well Dragon will be >>>>>>>> integrated with VoiceOver. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 11:25, Apple boy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ditto. Not that I use dictation but $99 is just wow expensive for >>>>>>>>> something that can be done at no additional charge. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards Chris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/03/2014 22:07, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>>>> I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is that the >>>>>>>>>> dictation on the Mac is good enough that I would want a lot of >>>>>>>>>> benefit more before I would want to spend $99 for it. I find the one >>>>>>>>>> that already comes with Mavericks to be pretty accurate. Do they let >>>>>>>>>> you have a trial first? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dragon is launching a new dictate software for Mac. There is an >>>>>>>>>>> introductory price of US $99.99. My question for the list is: With >>>>>>>>>>> the ability dictate and navigate the Mac via speech, what would be >>>>>>>>>>> the avantages in investing in Dragon? One feature that caught my >>>>>>>>>>> attention was the ability to transcribe an single voice audio to >>>>>>>>>>> script. I have used Dragon Naturally Speaking on the PC side and >>>>>>>>>>> have been able to work it with JAWS without J-Say. Also, has anyone >>>>>>>>>>> used Dragon with VO running in the bacground for support? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any input on this subject. Oh by the way, if anyone is >>>>>>>>>>> interested, the promotion goes until 3/31. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. So let me >>>>>>> come close this message out by saying this I've not had any real >>>>>>> problems with Dragon version three and use the voiceover. If anyone has >>>>>>> any questions feel free to write me off last night be happy to answer >>>>>>> them when I have time. Thank you all very much for reading. Please note >>>>>>> that I'm dictating this to my phone because I'm out and about. Brett >>>>>>> this message and wanted to at least begin the process of explaining >>>>>>> that all is not quite the way that it appears. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex Hall >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > [email protected] > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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