For Josh users, you cannot beat the focus displays. You can issue all sorts of 
Joss commands and really try the computer from your display. Of course, this 
assumes that one is running windows.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm lucky in that respect that my husband uses Windows. I borrow his computer 
> when I need to update my Focus 40 Blue Classic. This is the only thing I 
> truly rely on Windows  to do.
> 
> From what I can gather, the different displays have different firmware 
> versions from Freedom Scientific. The version number for mine is 4.59, but 
> this is different from the newer displays.
> 
> Hth,
> teresa
> 
> “We’re made of star stuff.”—Carl Sagan
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I have not had problems with my Mac waking from the Braille Edge. The Focus 
>> 14, if it turns itself off because it has been too long, it has to be turned 
>> back on, and then VoiceOver will connect again automatically. As for 
>> updating, the Braille Edge updates on the Mac fine. You just save out to a 
>> SD card and follow the instructions on the Braille Edge. As for me, when it 
>> comes time to update my Focus 14, I will have to get someone else to do it 
>> since I refuse to put Windows on my Mac just for that. I don't need Windows 
>> for anything else. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Brent Harding <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They might've screwed it up a little in IOS 7. It did work good with IOS 6 
>>> though. I would've assumed that most of them used windows-based firmware 
>>> updaters, but the Braille Edge might have a way to load it by putting a 
>>> file on the SD card with it. The one issue I did have is that if the phone 
>>> goes to sleep, the bluetooth can't wake it, but that may be the way Apple 
>>> devices are in general.
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Eugenia Firth
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Braille Displays
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> If I had it to do over again, I would wait a while before getting any of 
>>> the focuses. First of all, you have to use Windows to update them. That may 
>>> not be a problem for you, but it is a pain for me. Second of all, right now 
>>> some of us are experiencing really big problems. Focus display with getting 
>>> the focuses to pair with the Mac. I hear that is going to be changed when 
>>> next update comes around, and I sure hope so.
>>> I do not have the same problems with my Braille edge 40. I had a  problem 
>>> one time, and that took about two weeks to resolve. Just my two cents on 
>>> the matter.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Brent Harding <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Focus 40 Blue is a pretty good display. It does both bluetooth and USB 
>>>> for if yo were going to use it with the computer as well. Also, they have 
>>>> recently added the ability to switch between the two so you could go from 
>>>> the phone to the PC and back easily. I think the big issue might be 
>>>> whether or not voiceover supports using braille in other languages more so 
>>>> than the display, as I would assume all languages still use the same 6 or 
>>>> 8 dots of braille.
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Daniel Smith
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Bluetooth Braille Displays
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm in the research phase of purchasing a bluetooth braille display, and 
>>>> I'm looking for advice from my fellow visionaries. I've never owned a 
>>>> braille display, so I'm not too sure which models and brands are most 
>>>> reliable, popular, etc. 
>>>> 
>>>> What would you recommend for one whose primary use will be reading Braille 
>>>> in other languages (I'm a biblical studies student at Yale) ). I'd like it 
>>>> to be bluetooth so I don't need to deal with the additional wires, and I 
>>>> don't mind it being a bit larger, since I'll be using it primarily at 
>>>> home. 
>>>> 
>>>> Any and all advice is welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
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