I don't know about that. There's still a lot of stuff that I can't reliably do with a decent speed on the Mac. I've had plenty of accessibility consultants/trainers who use it to force them to use it tell me the same thing. It's still not really a reliable ssh client, lots of times it just skips over output etc for one example. I can fully develop windows apps with pretty much minimal extra effort on the windows side... not so much on the mac side. There are still websites that cause voiceover to die horribly. Apple.com used to make it just endlessly loop throughy the top half and it wouldn't get to any content, for example. I found another site that does that more recently.

I also don't think Microsoft is undoing anything they've done or that Jaws is being made less better. It's not done as much as it could, but that's because it's not really been required to so far. They put in minimal effort to make sure that they're possibly a step ahead of NVDA, for example.

On 7/13/2014 9:01 AM, David Taylor wrote:
One wonders if this Jaws preoccupation is behind them putting so muc pressure 
on Apple now too. Whatever Microsoft did in the past, they are undoing most of 
it now, Apple really are miles ahead.

Cheers
Dave

On 13 Jul 2014, at 13:26, Littlefield, Tyler <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello:
I can't speak to Google. Microsoft has actually done a lot in terms of 
accessibility, there was MSAA and now UIAA I think it is called, which Jaws 
works with quite extensively. Microsoft's approach is slightly different in 
that they provide the tools for a screen reader to bolt on to windows. I think 
they actually wanted to build something in at one point and the NFB had a hand 
in insuring that Jaws was the main reader for many many years.
On 7/13/2014 8:14 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Hello.

I have just been listening to a presentation on the WWC app (you know, the one 
that you can download from the App Store) where you can listen to apple's 
keynote etc. Well, on there, there is a presentation done by an apple 
representative and this person shows developers how to make apps accessible to 
Voice Over users and other users who have special needs. This presentation was 
very interesting as the person used the new apple's UI tool kit to make an app 
accessible for all special needs. So, there is no need for specialist 
organisations to worry about Apple's commitment to accessibility as Apple have 
given developers the tools to make apps accessible. Perhaps this should be 
pointed out to organisations who attack Apple as I can't see Google or 
Microsoft doing this. Or do they?

Kawal.


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