I managed to get the normal ones to read. How I did this was to uncheck "use smart quotes and dashes" found in system preferences, keyboard, text tab and the above check box, which I unchecked. I then opened up the Pages document and unchecked the smart quotes instructions you told me. Then typed some text with quotes before and after in pages and with the punctuation level set to most, this time, Voiceover read the quotes before and after.
So would this be an accessibility issue with Voiceover not being able to read smart quotes but can read the normal ones. What's the point of smart quotes anyway. I mean, why would one use them compared to your normal ones. Is it a visual thing for sighted folks? On 13 Jul 2014, at 22:50, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > Existing ones won't confert back, the option is only as you type them. Write > a line with quotes included, being sure that the Smart Quotes setting is off > (I don't know if it is a per-document setting or not) and see what happens > then. Also give the pronunciation dictionary trick a shot, as other people > will probably use smart quotes so you may never be rid of them entirely. > On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ok, I tried turning off Smart Quotes directly in Pages itself through the >> options you gave. Smart Quotes was checked. Unfortunately, after unchecking >> it and my punctuation level being set to most I read a line or two that >> contained quotes but Voiceover still wouldn't read them out to me. >> >> So, what would you advise me I do next. Pardon my ignorance, but what are >> smart quotes anyway? >> >> If it helps I used shift and the key two letters to right of the L key. >> >> On 13 Jul 2014, at 21:16, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In Pages, go to the Edit menu, open the Substitutions submenu, and see if >>> the option is checked in there. Also, and I haven't tried this, but what if >>> you pasted in a "fancy" quote when adding a new entry to VO's pronunciation >>> dictionary, and set the pronunciation to quote? That may, but may not, get >>> the marks to be spoken correctly. >>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, I did read my own message with the mail app and it did read the >>>> quotes out to me. With my puntuaion level set to most. >>>> >>>> What is this smart quote thing that you mentioned? Maybe I can take a look >>>> and turn it off to see if that will work with Pages. >>>> If you provide me with directions on how to do this, then I can try it and >>>> report back to you if it worked or not. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 Jul 2014, at 20:21, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Read your own message with punctuation set to most, and see if you hear >>>>> the quotes. I did, and my level is at most. What I'm trying to work out >>>>> is if this is specific to Pages somehow, or if it has to do with a >>>>> substitution. I've noticed that when Smart Quotes is on, replacing normal >>>>> quotes with those fancy opening/closing ones, the fancy ones are not >>>>> spoken no matter what. Disabling this and using normal quotes eliminates >>>>> the problem. >>>>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi guys, using Pages 5.2 on the Mac and having my punctuation 1st set to >>>>>> some then tested again with most, again, which also failed. >>>>>> Is it possible to get Voiceover announce quotes when someone is >>>>>> speaking? For example. >>>>>> >>>>>> James: "Hello, nice weather today isn't." >>>>>> Jill: "Indeed it certainly is." >>>>>> >>>>>> Note that the quotes are not announced before and after the person has >>>>>> spoken. >>>>>> >>>>>> Idealy, with punctuation set to most, I'd like to at least what one >>>>>> hears say with Jaws and with most being set, quote marks are usually >>>>>> announced by default with this punctuation setting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help with this would be really appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex Hall >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > [email protected] > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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