Hi there 
Last evening, it occurred to me that form filling out for us might can be made 
to work for us on the iPhone. I have PDF Pen for the iPhone, and I am wondering 
if form filling out could made to work on it too so that we could work with it 
as well. Sometimes we can things on the iPhone that we can't do as easily on 
the computer, at least I have had that happen. 

Gigi 

On Aug 30, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Nicholas Parsons <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Yeah, it would be awesome if they could figure it out, but I think it will be 
> difficult and perhaps a while off. In the meantime I think the more pressing 
> issue is for them to get other form fields such as checkboxes and pop up 
> menus working in forms which have been built with accessibility in mind.
> 
> Next it would be great if they could get the text to read better as in 
> Preview, and if they could get the heading and form field tags etcetera to 
> work like normal html headings and forms that would be fantastic.
> 
> And then there's the features to reorder pages, insert new pages, create 
> tables of contents and use them to navigate large documents. These features 
> would be great if they worked with VoiceOver. I haven't fully explored them 
> yet but I suspect there are some issues for now.
> 
> Certainly please let us know if there's anything else we can help with by 
> testing.
> Best,
> Nic
> 
> On 30 Aug 2014, at 1:00 am, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nic 
>> No, you understood quite well. I discovered the same things, so it's not 
>> perfect yet. However, when I get some time, I might see if there is a way to 
>> read line by line and therefore figure out most of the positions. I am sure 
>> they will work on this some more and make it better. It's better already. 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Gigi,
>>> 
>>> I've tried doing this before. PDFPen Pro did a pretty good job inserting 
>>> the form fields, but someone with vision told me that some of the fields to 
>>> type the answers were in the wrong spots/not aligned properly. They were 
>>> able to click and drag and stuff to fix it up a bit, but this would not be 
>>> possible as a VoiceOver user. The other problem is that all the form fields 
>>> were unlabelled, so I sometimes couldn't tell what answer I should be 
>>> writing in which field.
>>> 
>>> If I haven't properly understood what your'e asking please let me know.
>>> 
>>> On 29 Aug 2014, at 3:06 am, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys 
>>>> I just discovered something about PDF Pen Pro, and I wanted to tell you 
>>>> guys about this because we want to test this to see what improvements need 
>>>> making so we can let the good folks there know about it. I just discovered 
>>>> that if you get an inaccessible form that does nothing when you press the 
>>>> tab key, because the author of the PDF file didn't bother to consider us, 
>>>> there is an option in PDF Pen Pro to find the form fields. It goes through 
>>>> the file and makes the things accessible. I just did one, and the person I 
>>>> sent it to said it worked. I am not sure I got everything, and that's what 
>>>> wee want to test. 
>>>> 
>>>> The version, which I got from the App store yesterday, is 6.3.2. I had to 
>>>> go to the App store because I got it from there in the first place, so it 
>>>> didn't work for me to update within the program. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Gigi 
>>>> 
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