Thanks much. I'll take a look at this when I can.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, CJ Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cheryl,
> 
> No problem.  In short, the interface works, but the text display is blank as 
> far as VoiceOver can see.  And, I did verify with my sighted wife that, 
> indeed, the bible is visually present on the screen.  As I recall, VoiceOver 
> reports "Eloquent has no windows."
> 
> Also, as I stated in my previous MSG, I sent two emails to the developer 
> reporting the situation.  Again, keep in mind, this only happened after 
> installing Mavericks.  Upto that point, everything was fine.  I even upgraded 
> to a later version of Eloquent a bit later, 4.2 I think, & still no joy.  So, 
> @ this point I remain sad but hopeful that the situation will be resolved @ a 
> later date.
> 
> Hope this answered your questions,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Sep 14, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I did know about the change to eloquence and as I recall keith did too. 
>> Can you be more specific about what doesn't work with voiceover? Does 
>> nothing read at all or what happens?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2014, at 6:33 PM, CJ Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Keith,
>>> 
>>> Sadly, the info I can share is not good.  MacSword, as found by your 
>>> friend, is out of date.  In fact, it changed it's name to Eloquent some 
>>> time ago & was viable until Mavericks.  However, with the release of 
>>> Mavericks, it no-longer works with VoiceOver.  I have tried to contact the 
>>> developer several times, but received no reply.
>>> 
>>> To my knowledge, no other applications for the Mac are completely 
>>> accessible & only a few even have limited accessibility.  It's sad, but it 
>>> just doesn't seem to be a priority for any of the companies out there.  
>>> Well, that was the feeling I got after contacting some of them.  I wish you 
>>> luck & hope someone will chime in here & bring an app to our attention that 
>>> has been previously over looked.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2014, at 1:21 AM, Keith Hinton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello folks,
>>>> I'm doing some bible studdy training programs and need an accessible bible.
>>>> (Not web based) if at all possible.
>>>> I'd prefer ot run an application.
>>>> My teacher who is training me found a program called Mac Sword, but
>>>> I'm wondering if there are other applications out there for the Mac?
>>>> Would appreciate any input from anybody who has updated info on this topic.
>>>> Mike did some podcasts years ago for Blind Cool Tech, but I consider
>>>> them outdated now, and need current details from anybody who may have
>>>> htem.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> All the best.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> 
>>>> Keith
>>>> Website:
>>>> http://eshop.keithnet.us
>>>> Home Phone:
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>>>> Mobile Phone:
>>>> 928-713-6370
>>>> Primary email:
>>>> [email protected]
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