I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get 
muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock 
orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a 
very, very, vary little brain.
/Krister

> 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley <[email protected]>:
> 
> I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just 
> fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. 
> Jenine Stanley
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction.
>> It can't turn the page virtually in the app.
>> /A
>> 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> 
>>> GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at 
>>> balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same 
>>> spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the 
>>> phone. 
>>> 
>>> The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have 
>>> to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the 
>>> phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. 
>>> For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of 
>>> the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone 
>>> in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. 
>>> 😣
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there
>>>> Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and 
>>>> then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going 
>>>> to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be 
>>>> a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I 
>>>> just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be 
>>>> very careful not to change my position.  
>>>> Gigi
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading 
>>>>> about the results from others on the list.  I had the opportunity to 
>>>>> borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only 
>>>>> ever able to get a few words from a page.  I was able to sit at the 
>>>>> kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is 
>>>>> definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the 
>>>>> tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera.  I will add 
>>>>> that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for 
>>>>> the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera.  It really seems 
>>>>> that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind 
>>>>> users.
>>>>>  I plan to try more documents today.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Pete 
>>>>>> You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader 
>>>>>> that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line 
>>>>>> up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line 
>>>>>> up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have 
>>>>>> heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How 
>>>>>> sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I 
>>>>>> hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to 
>>>>>> work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and 
>>>>>> is it, in your opinion, better than it was?  
>>>>>> Regards, 
>>>>>> Gigi 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then 
>>>>>>> desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a 
>>>>>>> restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days are 
>>>>>>>> through:  or just about anyhow.  I never got such good results with 
>>>>>>>> the other OCR apps.  Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, 
>>>>>>>> which is kinda sorta okay.  The KNFB reader is where it's at if you 
>>>>>>>> want it to be both fast and accurate.  Yes, it does help you angle the 
>>>>>>>> camra just right.  I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB 
>>>>>>>> reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far 
>>>>>>>> upward.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>>>>>> blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>>>>> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I 
>>>>>>>>> got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which 
>>>>>>>>> obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about 
>>>>>>>>> a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was 
>>>>>>>>> perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber 
>>>>>>>>> or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas 
>>>>>>>>> KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to.
>>>>>>>>> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for 
>>>>>>>>> me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all 
>>>>>>>>> there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is 
>>>>>>>>> now the only OCR app on my phone.
>>>>>>>>> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it 
>>>>>>>>> starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your decision
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lisette
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or 
>>>>>>>>>> not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either 
>>>>>>>>>> textGrabber or Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with 
>>>>>>>>>> both those apps is the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader 
>>>>>>>>>> make that easier?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100? Ouch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mystic Access
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Mattingly <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the app is $100.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federation of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the blind,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology to give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Members of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inc. KNFB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind, said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forty years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the development of technology that helps blind people to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the various print materials that we all encounter 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from day to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> develop the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appliance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have been interested in the development of better and more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> portable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> letters, menus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyday life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we need and live the lives we want."
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