Is split finger tap the same as placing two fingers on the screen and only lift 
one of the fingers while the other one is still on the screen and tap with the 
one you lift?

Take care 

21. sep. 2014 kl. 23:05 skrev Marianne Denning <[email protected]>:

I read the quick start manual.  You should hold the phone in the same
orientation as the document you are scanning.  I went into the
settings and landscape was off.  I scanned a page of a book and held
my phone camera down with the phone in portrait position.  It also
suggests that instead of the double tap, you use the split finger tap.
Place two fingers on the left side of the phone, lift one finger and
tap the phone.  It should take a picture and begin reading very soon.


On 9/21/14, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the answer, but it’s the orientation bit i don’t understand and
> that’s why i twist my arm in awkward directions, I’m not sure of what the
> app means by so and so many degrees in either direction, should i turn the
> phone or only move it to the side? Sometimes it feels like whatever i do it
> turns out i have the same rotation.
> /Krister
> 
>> 21 sep 2014 kl. 17:12 skrev Rachel Feinberg <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making
>> sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly accurate
>> results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt guidance
>> come in extremely handy!
>> You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may
>> need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but
>> nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as
>> the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance
>> features help you orient the last bit if needed.
>> HTH,
>> Rachel.
>> On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and
>>> get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock
>>> orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear
>>> with a very, very, vary little brain.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>>> 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked
>>>> just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text.
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction.
>>>>> It can't turn the page virtually in the app.
>>>>> /A
>>>>> 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley <[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good
>>>>>> at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in
>>>>>> the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I
>>>>>> tend to tip the phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I
>>>>>> have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material
>>>>>> under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction
>>>>>> until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was
>>>>>> the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that
>>>>>> I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where
>>>>>> that came from I have no idea. 😣
>>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>>> Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it,
>>>>>>> and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that
>>>>>>> was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level
>>>>>>> indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe
>>>>>>> it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to
>>>>>>> scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position.
>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender <[email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading
>>>>>>>> about the results from others on the list.  I had the opportunity to
>>>>>>>> borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was
>>>>>>>> only ever able to get a few words from a page.  I was able to sit at
>>>>>>>> the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app.
>>>>>>>> It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view
>>>>>>>> report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the
>>>>>>>> camera.  I will add that I had not been able to get good results
>>>>>>>> with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at
>>>>>>>> lining up the camera.  It really seems that they did a great job on
>>>>>>>> writing an app which compensates for blind users.
>>>>>>>> I plan to try more documents today.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Pete
>>>>>>>>> You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB
>>>>>>>>> reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the
>>>>>>>>> thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously,
>>>>>>>>> you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really
>>>>>>>>> impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new
>>>>>>>>> program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the
>>>>>>>>> text and have
>>>>>>>>> the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a
>>>>>>>>> lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it.
>>>>>>>>> So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion,
>>>>>>>>> better than it was?
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better
>>>>>>>>>> then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First
>>>>>>>>>> try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days are
>>>>>>>>>>> through:  or just about anyhow.  I never got such good results
>>>>>>>>>>> with the other OCR apps.  Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text
>>>>>>>>>>> Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay.  The KNFB reader is where
>>>>>>>>>>> it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate.  Yes, it
>>>>>>>>>>> does help you angle the camra just right.  I didn't realize,
>>>>>>>>>>> until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always
>>>>>>>>>>> angling the camra lens much too far upward.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone
>>>>>>>>>>> user!
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for
>>>>>>>>>>> the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first
>>>>>>>>>>>> picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird
>>>>>>>>>>>> abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and
>>>>>>>>>>>> then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps
>>>>>>>>>>>> you line it up if you want it to.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it
>>>>>>>>>>>> for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>> was all there was at the time and they served their purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>>> KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when
>>>>>>>>>>>> it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your decision
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lisette
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether or not to purchase
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     it, but so far I'm not completely happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with either textGrabber or Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100? Ouch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mystic Access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where the magic is in learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Mattingly <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the app is $100.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federation of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the blind,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state-of-the-art optical character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   recognition (OCR)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the blind instant access to the contents of print
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> materials. Members of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> K-NFB Reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Blind, said:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for forty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the development of technology that helps blind people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to acquire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the various print materials that we all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encounter from day to
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to develop the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> household appliance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have been interested in the development of better and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more portable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> letters,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         menus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyday life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the increased electronic transmission of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many of us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry each day provides instant access to the printed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word. We can hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the iPhone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we need and live the lives we want."
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