I mostly use tabletop mode and am not having the space problem. I wonder if some of it has to do with proportionate size or length of fingers or something related to that which makes this happen more for some of us than others. I also am becoming faster and faster at braille input mode though I am not using it all the time. I am also using sixdot mode primarily because I get the audible feedback of what I have typed; for several reasons right now it does seem simpler not to use contracted braille and if I make a mistake I only have one character to correct.
-- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 12, 2014, at 3:08 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > If space did not work reliably, I would not be using the onscreen braille > input to take notes or write case notes at work. I am now almost as fast > onscreen as I am on the braille keyboard, and expect to be as fast shortly. > > The problem some people are having is quite possibly the same problem I still > occasionally have when I use tabletop mode rather than away mode. In tabletop > mode, I find that my single-finger flick is often to short, so it registers > as a dot press rather than a space. In away mode, this happens much less > frequently. In fact, in this message, which I am writing in away mode, not > doing a long enough swipe has occurred six times. Note: I usually write in 6 > dot mode rather than contracted braille mode. If computer braille was > available on the iPhone, I would use it instead. I have come to the > conclusion that, with electronic braille, we should be using computer > braille, or grade 1 braille, as much as possible. This will improve our > spelling, and bring us more inline with the vast, vast majority of sighted > people. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 12 Oct 2014, at 10:20, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Wow, no braille errors! David, how do you manage the space not working? And >> how long does it take you to write things on the onscreen braille compared >> to the braille display or keyboard? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:46 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> People are often uncomfortable with change. Therefore, there is a tendancy >>> to focus on the negatives rather than the positives. >>> >>> In my opinion, there is also a subset of people who are not happy unless >>> they are complaining about something. These people do a good job of >>> confusing the issue for those who are more timid about change. >>> >>> Personally, I absolutely love the braille input (which I now use to write >>> almost everything, including this email and my work files), and I really >>> like the changes Apple has finally made with the calendar app. In addition >>> to what I previously wrote about location, travel time, and custom future >>> event scheduling, one can have calendar launch Apple Maps for GPS mapping >>> navigation during the travel time. It is very cool. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 08:07, Christopher Hallsworth <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I know we use our devices whatever ways suit us, but I struggle to >>>> understand just why people won't update until bugs are fixed, with no >>>> specific rhyme or reason at all. But being an Apple fan I'm bound to not >>>> understand this. Sure I would like to see bugs fixed along with the rest >>>> of you, but I learn to live every day with the bugs and workarounds if any >>>> exist. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my laptop >>>> >>>>> On 09/10/2014 14:16, Cheryl Homiak wrote: >>>>> let me just say: yes, there are bugs. However, I am using my iPad and >>>>> both iPhones every day just as I have always use them. Do I have to do a >>>>> few little work arounds? Yes. But still, I am using all of my devices >>>>> with braille, with speech, with dictation and Siri and everything else >>>>> and with the addition of braille input right from the screen without >>>>> using a third-party app. So yes, I would like to see the bugs addressed >>>>> and fixed, but no, I do not find any of my devices have become >>>>> nonfunctional or so difficult to use that I have abandoned their normal >>>>> daily, all day long, constant place in my life!this is not to minimize >>>>> the problems people are having; I would just like to bring a little bit >>>>> of perspective to this issue.by the way, it seems ironic to me; I could >>>>> not for the life of me use MBraille and now I am enjoying the screen >>>>> input of braille and people who could use MBraille are having problems. I >>>>> have no idea why this is happeningi but well I know it isn't really funny >>>>> for >>>> those who can't use the braille input,it does seem a little ironic to me. >>>> But believe me, I am hoping for relief for those who cannot use the built >>>> in braille input as soon as possible! >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! >>>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>>> And now, every day: >>>>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: >>>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; >>>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi there >>>>>> I don't think the bugs are that bad. If I lose VoiceOver, and sometimes >>>>>> when I press the home key when getting out of an app it happens, I just >>>>>> tell Siri to turn VoiceOver off then tell her to turn it back on again. >>>>>> The other thing has to do with the music coming on when you use two >>>>>> finger double tap to answer the phone or other things, too. I just do it >>>>>> again, and the music most of the tine shuts up. The other annoying one >>>>>> is when a link or button refuses to work. Most of the time I can get it >>>>>> to work with flicking up or down and then double tapping, (it was >>>>>> suggested on this list.) Sometimes it works if you locate it on the >>>>>> screen and split tap. Usually, I can find a work around. BARD Mobile has >>>>>> a few annoyances like jumping out of the app when downloading files. And >>>>>> finally, if you have been waiting for the Braille keyboard, I cant get >>>>>> it to work, even though I was fast with mBraille. >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't yet written Apple Accessibility because I haven't had the >>>>>> time, and I think they probably know by now all these little annoyances. >>>>>> I am confident they will fix them soon with the next updates. I am not >>>>>> one of these people that gets hysterical about annoyances on an update. >>>>>> when you get your iPhone 6 plus it will be under IOS 8, I believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gigi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Cheree Heppe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had been waiting to upgrade my phone for some time and did choose the >>>>>>> 6plus. The phone isn't here yet, but feels like a mini, mini in my >>>>>>> hand. I did test to see if it would fit in my pocket -- and it did. >>>>>>> I have not upgraded my current phone to IOS 8 due to multiple bug >>>>>>> warnings from a number of blind people around here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone 4S >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8 Oct 2014, at 13:00, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, the bugs aren't all ironed out but I for one wasn't expecting that >>>>>>> this soon. As for never wanting to own a 6+ and not being crazy about >>>>>>> the 6, that's opinion to which we are al entitled. I am enjoying my 6+, >>>>>>> with iOS8 despite the bugs, imensely and the reason many different >>>>>>> phones are available and sell well is because people's likes and >>>>>>> dislikes are diverse. I realize a lot of people feel the 6+ is too >>>>>>> large and that certainly is a valid opinion; for myself, I would >>>>>>> upgrade my remaining 5S to a 6+ now if I could which is probably >>>>>>> minority opinion but proves the diversity of people's responses. As for >>>>>>> bending, I am not expecting that to happen, but if it does I have Apple >>>>>>> Care and wil request a replacement just as I would for any other >>>>>>> product. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>>>>> thrown in the trash! >>>>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>>>> And now, every day: >>>>>>> "This I call to mind, >>>>>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>>>>> never ceases; >>>>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has Apple ironed out the bugs in iOS 8 yet? And, is the 6+ bending >>>>>>>> under pressure still a problem? Is it going to be a disaster for >>>>>>>> Apple? I've held both iPhone sixes, and I would never buy a 6+. In >>>>>>>> fact, I'm not too crazy about the six either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Christopher Hallsworth >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's official, Apple confirms October 16th special event: 'It's been >>>>>>>>> way too long' >>>>>>>>> by MacDailyNews >>>>>>>>> [cfsp key="adsense_336x280"]It's official: Apple's invitation to >>>>>>>>> media outlets has confirmed they will be holding a special media >>>>>>>>> event on October 16, 2014. >>>>>>>>> No word, yet, on whether Appel will attempt a live streaming >>>>>>>>> broadcast of the event. If so, hopefully, it'll go better than their >>>>>>>>> last attempt. >>>>>>>>> Rumors and speculation call for new iPads, including a svelte new >>>>>>>>> A8-powered iPad Air with Touch ID, and new Macs, including the >>>>>>>>> possibility of a new 27-inch iMac with Retina display and maybe even >>>>>>>>> a new Mac mini. >>>>>>>>> Also expected is the public release of OS X Yosemite, so we all >>>>>>>>> finally get some Continuity into our lives between our Macs and >>>>>>>>> iPhones, iPad, and iPod touches. >>>>>>>>> And, as always, the possibility of "one more thing" looms. >>>>>>>>> MacDailyNews will offer live notes that day starting at 10am PDT/1pm >>>>>>>>> EDT. 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