Ok, do these newer models come with IOS8, or are they still running 7?
On Oct 15, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:

>   The 8.0.1 and 8.0.2 updates were released rather quickly after the initial 
> iOS 8 release. While the bugs seem to be quite egregious, I would presume 
> most people would rather the next one take longer in the hopes that most of 
> these irksome little buglets get worked out.
> 
>   This is why I am still using 7,1,2 and is also why I would never rush out 
> to buy a brand new product that almost always will take time to mature. Some 
> believe that if it were not for the front runners to seek out the bugs they 
> would never be found. But for some, it appears that the troublesome issues 
> far outweigh the benefits of getting the new features.
> 
>   Yosemite will be released soon but again, I will wait, probably a couple 
> months or so, before I install it.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
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> On 10/15/2014 2:31 PM, mário navarro wrote:
>>         waw man, well spoken.
>> I admire your courage ...
>> who believes that the 8.1 update will clear the problems of voice over /
>> accessibility?
>> I do not!
>> even half of them will not be solved ...
>> this update to be good for us, would have to be resolved about 45 bugs.
>> and I'm talking about the most serious ...
>> 
>> all this will not be solved as it should and assumed with the respect it
>> deserves ...
>> 
>> cheers.
>> Em 15/10/2014 20:38, Yuma Antoine Decaux escreveu:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I don't know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have
>>> to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere,
>>> slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not
>>> working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say
>>> that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is
>>> trying to nudge things too much into the "let big brother figure out
>>> for you what you should like and do". Point in case, that U2 debacle.
>>> Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through
>>> some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like
>>> annoying ads. Really don't want some band pushing their crap on my
>>> life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is
>>> supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has
>>> some great songs. But their current 50's midlife crisis moans aren't
>>> my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple
>>> store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
>>> 
>>> Seriously folks, I'm not just going off on a rant, and for those of
>>> you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a
>>> few basic things:
>>> 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple
>>> makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music
>>> production or app developement with their platform. They serve you.
>>> Not the other way around.
>>> 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively
>>> create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the
>>> direction of that experience. Personally, I don't trust Tim Cook that
>>> much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a
>>> pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of
>>> human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to
>>> make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are
>>> frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last
>>> apple showcase. but they don't have enough say yet, so we're stuck
>>> with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead
>>> of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
>>> 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what.
>>> Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of
>>> the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It's frustrating
>>> to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that
>>> standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost
>>> of the buyer, no. If it's broken, it should be free, such as what
>>> google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky
>>> experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out
>>> the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good
>>> experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both
>>> sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to
>>> rot in terms of presenting it's image. It's not an underdog but a huge
>>> bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of
>>> lawyers behind murmuring at the chief's ears, the latter being
>>> probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird
>>> awkward show each year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who
>>> sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time or something seems
>>> amiss in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever the case, I don't really
>>> dig the style apple is portraying. It's becoming a disney world
>>> presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite
>>> literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this qualification should
>>> by now, from all the sci fi, the research and the graduations of
>>> bright people, should lead us much farther in terms of actual
>>> interaction with a computer, and let's not forget screen readers.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>> Mob: +612102277190
>>> Skype: Shainobi1
>>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>>> 
>>> 
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