I have changed the subject line as we were drifting into OS.
The scansoft voices are the modern voices introduced in Lion as I recall it. 
That is voices like Daniel, tom, Samantha etc.

My experience is that my 2011 iMac    is snappier with Alex.

I used to have different voices for Mail and Safari etc under activities and my 
Mac started to crawl. after I went to Mavericks So I got rid of all activities 
and just use Alex and I have a fast  Mac again.

David griffith  
On 16 Oct 2014, at 18:02, The Believer <[email protected]> wrote:

> David,
>   Which ones are the Scansoft voices in Mavericks??
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> [email protected]
> 
> On 10/15/2014 5:10 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> I wonder what made you go back to Mountain Lion? I too found the upgrade
>> to Mavericks initially disturbing and originally considering trying to
>> revert but  find most things work fine nowadays, even iBooks is more
>> usable now.
>> 
>> In my case the key on my 2011 iMac was to
>> 1. Do a clean install.
>> 2. Go back to Alex as my default voice.
>> 3. Stop using Scansoft voices, particularly in conjunction with activities.
>> 
>> After that the lagging and busy issue pretty much disappeared and all
>> seemed to work fine with only minor annoyances which so far have work
>> around. The file attachment      feature of Mail is now more time
>> consuming because you have to go to save as in the file menu. On my
>> machine you cannot escape out of the menu bar but have to go to menu
>> extras and then you can use escape.  None of this is show stopping for
>> me. The major annoyance for me is that the tab feature appears to have
>> messed up the ability to open multiple windows so if I want to have
>> multiple windows in Finder open I have to use the open in new window
>> command from the context menu  rather than just use command down arrow.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> On 16/10/2014 00:00, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> Superlative little rant, that. :)
>>> 
>>> For myself, I'm back on Mountain Lion for my primary machine, a mid-11
>>> iMac, to get an email client that displays plain text messages, a
>>> working C compiler compatible with much Open Source software, and no
>>> bloody iBooks.  It's still iOSified, but at least it functions.  I am
>>> thinking about Windows--have been for a while now, actually--as going
>>> neither further back nor further forward with OS X would appear to be
>>> options.  I would stay with Snow Leopard, but it's not an option, and
>>> Mavericks+ are where the dumbed-down interfaces get a bit too much for
>>> anything that isn't basic mucking about.  Linux: nope, not on the
>>> desktop.  Windows 7, then?
>>> 
>>> You can hide U2 easily enough, in iTunes, on your purchases tab.  And
>>> you can hide them from your cloud view by just deleting them and
>>> taking the option to hide.
>>> 
>>> As for iOS, I'd suggest you sign up for an Apple Developer account or
>>> team up with someone who has so you can run the 8.1 beta.  You'd be in
>>> a better position to judge the performance of the bug fixes, and
>>> complain to Apple about the remainder.  Personally, although I think
>>> iOS is turning into Android, in an unhealthy way, even as OS X turns
>>> into iOS, I can't complain about my iPhone 6+.  It gives me pleasure
>>> to use it, even if I get annoyed by some of the bugs or can't tell
>>> which app requires which permissions.  I still have an iOS 7-equipped
>>> iPad and iPod, when I need smooth sailing above all things.  The
>>> initial iOS 8 release and the subsequent minor releases did not enjoy
>>> good quality control, and not just for VoiceOver users either, but I
>>> do think we have been punished rather badly compared to previous
>>> releases.
>>> 
>>> And yeah, we are the customers, dammit; don't excuse or idolise
>>> Apple.  There is a reason why the folder where my Apple list traffic
>>> goes into is called "BlindFaith". :)
>>> 
>>> So anyway, KBO.
>>> 
>> 
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