Hi Alex, First of all, thanks for the excellent podcast you did on Apple this. I had a question about mail. I have not upgraded yet. I suspect they will do so soon. I am wondering since I use classic view to read mail in conversation threads, I use VO – J all the time. Will I be able to do that as I have been doing well I need to modify how I do this? Thanks.
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've heard one report of the unread status being unreliable, but that's it. I > don't have that problem, and I've not heard anyone else talk about it aside > from that single report. Maybe you'll run into it, but for what it's worth, I > haven't. >> On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I for one, applaud what you and the others are doing with respect to your >> work on Mail and the other parts of Yosemite. Just one thing bothers me. I >> am informed that with this version of Mail, messages are indicated to be >> unread even if they have in fact been read. Is this so? In fact, it's the >> one small factor holding me back from doing the update. I trust the >> signatures part crashing has also been fixed? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! >> >>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:21 AM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Pamela, >>> >>> You wrote: >>> "Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS?" >>> >>> It truly saddens me that you feel that the current build of Mail is junky. >>> >>> While I think I can understand your frustration, I want you to know that I >>> and others worked very hard to make sure that the core functionality of the >>> application was not lost in this, the first commercial release of the >>> application. >>> >>> In the previous version of Mail, using the VoiceOver + arrow key combos made >>> sense in terms of the order in which items were placed into focus. Now, as >>> you have no doubt discovered, navigating from the Mailboxes Table to the >>> Messages table, for example, is no longer linear. In fact, the order in >>> which they appear makes no sense, at all, from a VoiceOver user's >>> perspective, in my opinion of course. >>> >>> Please know that these kinds of things have been bugged and Apple is quite >>> aware of them. I do not know why they were not addressed in this release >>> but rest assured that I and others will continue to press for improvements. >>> >>> >>> I, personally, don't use the Classic view but, with just one or two little >>> changes in keystroke combos, the Standard view works just as well as it did >>> in Maverick. >>> >>> I do not write this because I am trying to save face for Apple, I am writing >>> this because I believe in the power of this application. >>> >>> I will be happy to help you get your Mail groove back, using Yosemite Mail >>> by discussing the application in more detail, off-list, should you wish. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis >>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people >>> referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it >>> different than the junk they released with this most recent OS? >>> >>> Pam Francis >>> >>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Nicholas Parsons >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Mail 8.0 is working well for me, though in Classic view all messages seem to >>> be marked as conversations whether they are or not, and in standard view >>> they are all marked as unread whether they are or not. However, I like the >>> fact that the unread status is back to the beginning of the info announced >>> in standard view. Apart from this, it seems snappier than ever, but >>> responsiveness depends on many factors and your milage may vary. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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