Alex,
OS X keeps many logs. One at least should be able to provide clues. I would like to know which one would be useful for this as I want to see what Mavericks is doing directly after login for the next 30-60 seconds.

   Have you done this? It might help to see what is going on there.

From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
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On 10/20/2014 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
I definitely don't have File Vault enabled, so this isn't the problem on my 
machine.
On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:01 AM, wayne17a <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello I have just found out the reason for my lag when I installed this os I 
had file vault incrypt my files but I did not know this at the time and now it 
has finished there is no lag to talk of so check in the background to see if 
file vault is incrypting hope this helps

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VO and lag on Yosemite

The lag seems random. I've heard of 4GB ram machines running fine, while newer 
ones with more ram have the lag. I've heard that Nuance voices cause the 
problem, and that they don't. I've been told a clean install made things worse, 
or a bit better... All I can say is: if you have this problem, report it to 
Apple along with the specifics of your machine. Hopefully they can pin it down 
that way.
On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Phil Halton <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

This lag issue is a bbig deal breaker for me. I won't upgrade until something 
is done about it. I mean, c'mon apple! I don't care about fancy new features, 
just don't screw up the basics. a sluggish response would drive me nuts - I'd 
probably go back to windows rather than put up with that.

On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:43 PM, David Eagle <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Well I'm not getting any lag whatsoever. If nything, it seems more responsive. 
I'm using the Daniel Nuance voice. I'm running a 2011 MacBook Pro. However, I 
do have 8 gig of ram I think.
On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:25, David Griffith <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

What is  the spec of your machine with this lag?
So far observing posts on list  the people who have reported lag and specs 
appear to have 4GB machines. I have a 2011 iMac but 16 GB so am hoping that the 
lag will not be so much of an issue if I make the leap.

David Griffith
On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:02, Vic <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:


I clean-installed Yosemite and this seems to have improved VoiceOver response 
somewhat, but there's still the feeling of pushing the stone up the mountain 
when typing or navigating with VoiceOver. Interestingly enough, with a Braille 
display connected, you definitely see how much faster the text appears there as 
compared to Alex speaking it.

On Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:26:43 AM UTC-7, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
Hi all
I can tell you that during the developer previews and public betas the
lag has been always there somewhat. I did both a clean install and an
update on a secondary partition on my internal disk with the same
results. This was on a late 2011 Macbook Pro 13 with 4 GB of RAM. It's
tolerable but do sympathize with those having a more severe lag than I am.


Sent from my laptop

On 18/10/2014 14:10, Alex Hall wrote:
I've heard one or two reports of a clean install making the lag considerably 
worse, which is something I've never heard of a clean install doing. For my 
part, the lag with Alex is there but tolerable, while the lag with Nuance 
voices is ridiculous. I have no activities, and I'm on a 2012 MacBook Air, 4GB 
ram, 1.7GhZ I5 processor.
On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:40 AM, David Griffith <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
wrote:

When  I moved from Mountain Lion to Mavericks I noticed a big improvement once 
I had made a clean install
. This may assist you as well this time and also you may want to look to make 
sure you do not have activities running just in case this is an issue for 
Yosemite as well.
When I move to Yosemite I will probably attempt an upgrade but will then 
probably do a clean install  later if there are any performance issue.   That  
process appeared to work well then with all my apps etc being taken across from 
myTime Machine.

David Griffith
On 18 Oct 2014, at 00:32, Faisal <[email protected] <javascript:> 
<mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>> wrote:

yes, i did it but nothing happens
On 18 Oct 2014, at 08:22, Maria and Joe Chapman <[email protected] <javascript:> 
<mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>> wrote:

Hi.  have you tried repairing permissions and has this made any difference?
thanks ?
Blessings!
maria and Joe chapman
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On 18 Oct 2014, at 12:28 pm, Dionipher Herrera <[email protected] <javascript:> 
<mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>> wrote:

yes me too, and i hate it.
On 18 Oct 2014, at 01:32, Faisal <[email protected] <javascript:> 
<mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>> wrote:

Hi all,
so I took the plunge and installed Yosemite. I'm noticing a definite lag with 
voice over. Is anyone else noticing this as well?
I'm using Alex
Thanks

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