the only problem with backing up your apps to your mac is that you lose all your folders that you so painstakingly created on your iDevice. This is why I prefer using iCloud as it preserves all your folders. Another issue I noticed when using your mac is apps that get restored onto your phone which you deleted. I once did a restore from my mac and I had over 6 pages of apps when I should only have two. I also found that I had pages and pages of apps that I deleted a long time ago. The interesting thing is, I actually backed up my phone after I deleted those apps so they should’ve have gotten backed up to begin with. > On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > This is what I understand. If you primarily use iCloud as your backup > solution for your iDevice, then your Mac really isn’t in the picture, at > least according to Apples’ expectations. All apps are purchased through the > iTunes Store, all music is either streamed or downloaded from the iTunes > Store and all settings and app data are stored within the iCloud backup. > Therefore, everything you need is available over the air through this iCloud > backup solution. Now, we know better than that though, music ripped from CDs > etc, and apps that are no longer available in the iTunes Store also often > reside on your iDevice. Using the iCloud backup solution only, would be a > problem if your iDevice crashed and those items weren’t backed up elsewhere, > or at least available from elsewhere. Those, still useful apps and other > non-purchased media would be lost. Therefore, setting iTunes to download all > your app purchases, and maintaining copies of your media on your Mac is also > a very good idea. Extend that further to have a good backup routine for your > Mac and you should never lose anything. > > Two more things that I do to ensure I don’t lose anything, is to occasionally > do an iDevice backup through iTunes on my Mac, and make sure that my iDevice > and Mac are synced often. The latter just ensures that those apps that may no > longer be available through the iTunes Store, can still be brought back to my > iDevice through iTunes. . When you do a restore through iCloud, this dialog > often appears telling you exactly that. Some apps weren’t able to be > downloaded from the iTunes Store, connect your iDevice to your Mac and > retrieve those apps from iTunes. Add iTunes Match to the mix, and you can > actually get all of the music downloaded over the air as well. > > Hope this makes sense. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:50, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Interesting. While I do have a good number of apps I think the bulk of my >> iPhone content is media. While it's great that iCloud backs up pointers to >> media stored on my computer, that means the iCloud backup isn't really a >> full backup. If something goes kerfluey on my laptop the copies on my phone >> are the only ones. Or is the assumption that my generated content from the >> phone is being synced to icloud and then that is synced to my laptop? >> >> CB >> >> On 12/14/14, 10:33 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Actually Chris, this is a common misconception. When your iDevice is >>> backed up to iCloud, the entire device is not necessarily backed up. That >>> is, the OS and pre-installed apps are grabbed from Apple, only markers and >>> setup info is stored for your apps as they are downloaded after the fact, >>> and the same is so for your music. The actual music is not stored in the >>> iCloud backup, just a database of the songs, playlists and such that you >>> can restore either from iTunes Match or your computer. Thus, it is >>> feasible to keep multiple backups of multiple iDevices in iCloud >>> simultaneously. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 20:25, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The downside of iCloud backups is (I suspect) most folks have the free 5GB >>>> of storage while most phones have a lot more than this to backup. I >>>> imagine very few people can use iCloud backup without either paying for >>>> more storage or stripping down what gets backed up to a bare minimum. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 12/13/14, 12:19 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Regarding iPhone backups. The process is as follows. If you have your >>>>> iDevice set to use iCloud Backups, then it will automatically backup to >>>>> iCloud when your iDevice is plugged in to power and connected to WiFi. >>>>> this is regardless of whether you have Mavericks, Yosemite, Windows or >>>>> even a computer for that matter. You can manually tell it to backup to >>>>> iCloud from within the iCloud area of Settings on your iDevice. If you >>>>> have enabled iTunes WiFi Sync, then your iDevices will sync with your Mac >>>>> when they are both connected to the same WiFi network and iTunes is open >>>>> on the Mac. This is done over the air so you don’t need to tether it with >>>>> your USB cable in order for this to occur. Realize though, that this is >>>>> just syncing, it’s not backing up to iCloud. If you have set your >>>>> iDevice to backup to that same Mac instead of to iCloud, then backups >>>>> should occur using WiFi Syncing to that Mac. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 16:49, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am having problems with understanding Yosemite after coming from >>>>>> Mavericks. >>>>>> >>>>>> For instance, my understanding was if you locked your I phone, you could >>>>>> back it up to iCloud. However, this is not for me, as when I do it, I >>>>>> always get the message that the process failed. However, if I use my >>>>>> Mac mini or I Mac to do this, my I phone gets backed up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another thing I just discovered today was, that I don’t have to have my >>>>>> I phone connected to any devices and I can back it up to my I Mac or my >>>>>> Mac mini without having to connect it although initially I did connect >>>>>> it to a cable in the first instance when I was instructed to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> A very nice thing I discovered was that the iCloud website was better >>>>>> when sorting out my rules as before on Mavericks the process was rather >>>>>> complicated. It’s so nice that Apple have worked to tidy things up now. >>>>>> I’m so glad that braille is working at last on Yosemite as my Focus 40 >>>>>> would not connect via bluetooth. Such a positive note for a good >>>>>> operating system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> -- >>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>.
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