Hi there
I haven't followed this thread too closely because of the holidays etc. 
However, did you get PDF Pen pro or some other program? Nic and I had some 
correspondence about this when I can use it just fine, and he couldn't. He and 
I both got things resolved, so I was wondering if we could figure out what the 
problem is. I filled out the form 1040 last year with this program, and 
recently filled out a recertification for para transit with it also. Of course, 
I was using voice over all the time.The only trouble I had was with the check 
boxes, and they are still working on that.
Gigi

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> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:48 AM, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Having fixed your form with somebody else's help, could you now do it 
> yourself?  Or does it always require sighted help?  I'm afraid I've bought 
> pdf pro but have not been able to use it.  So as you said, it's just sitting 
> there, an expensive thing.  
> 
> Best wishes for Christmas
> 
> Simon
>> On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:52, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> 
>> Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master 
>> teachers fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it 
>> properly readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields 
>> fixed up, but, it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of 
>> having someone close by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF 
>> Pen Pro is rather expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  
>>> I'm not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few 
>>> people will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>>> On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content 
>>>> area once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate 
>>>> the various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time 
>>>> on the specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce it 
>>>> as such and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with 
>>>> improperly created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly 
>>>> tagged and inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just 
>>>> left blank space and expected the user to enter info there, then it will 
>>>> not be usable from within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re 
>>>> kind of out of luck.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  
>>>>> If anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a 
>>>>> pdf form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and 
>>>>> in each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input 
>>>>> data.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PDF Pen Pro
>>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Chris
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