Hi! I totally agree with you William regarding braille support. Its so basic that i seldom use it at all. It would be really intresting if we could show them how things work now and how things should work. /A > 12 feb 2015 kl. 07:10 skrev William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com>: > > Of course, this is done also but any support or remark of you as > voiceover-users is also very welcome > > > Mvg > william Windels > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > >> Op 12-feb.-2015 om 06:30 heeft Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> het >> volgende geschreven: >> >> I think that this kind of an email should be directed toward apple >> accessibility as they can address some of your issues? >>> On Feb 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am writing to you since the progress of the accessibility features are >>> really pour in the last releases of osx 10.10.2. >>> The mac is still missing some important features against windows with a >>> commercial screenreader, and this after more 6 years of voiceover as >>> built-in screenreader. >>> Ok, voiceover is still a free, built-in screenreader but on windows , there >>> are 2 free screenreader for the windows platform that are better in some >>> cases than voiceover. >>> >>> Braille is still very basicnin osx: >>> Some daily problems I discover with voiceover: >>> I can’t follow courses with only braille output (without speech) during >>> colleges. >>> I mean: there is some important information missing on the braille display >>> that’s only available with speech. >>> >>> What is missing: >>>>> 1- no option for word wrapping: this can be useful for fast reading >>>>> (loudly); >>>>> 2- no different modes line, structured, speech (like in jaws): specialy >>>>> structured mode in jaws is configurable, type of controls is shown, >>>>> interaction-levels could be shown on this way. >>>>> It’s e.g. very frustrating if you are in a text area and you can read all >>>>> with the braille-line but you can’t edit or simply move the cursor to any >>>>> position that is visible on the braille display. >>>>> >>>>> 3- to know if quicknav is on/off before moving isn’t possible also. >>>>> On this way , it’s very easy to lose your position in a text-area or a >>>>> window. >>>>> The quick-nav option has also some bugs in general but is sometimes very >>>>> useful for navigation (and specially on a macbook). >>> >>>>> 4- In some cases, the text that’s in the voiceover cursor is (always) >>>>> underlineed with dots 7-8. On this way , no other attributes are shown >>>>> and the cursor isn’t shown. If dots 7,8 are turned off, the cursor isn’t >>>>> visible at all and capitals aren’t shown also. >>>>> >>>>> 5- When i put the cursor on a letter in a text I delete a .(dot) sign on >>>>> the left sign of the cursor and voiceover says sometimes something else. >>> >>> >>> >>> further braille bugs: >>> cursor routing on the first sign of the braille-display: the text on the >>> display is gone; >>> when composing a message to multiple recipients , while the speech is >>> saying correctly the contact that has the focus, the braille display isn’t >>> following. >>> >>>>> Further: >>> >>> >>> Some bugs since 10.9 aren’t fixed: >>> the icons in the statusbar like the third party app dropbox can’t be >>> accessed with voiceover from there. >>> The drag and drop-function with voiceover is not improved since the >>> introduction in osx 10.7 and gives not the same possibilities for blind >>> users as for sighted users. >>> The button to mount all external (network)-stations at once in finder is >>> not accessible with voiceover; >>> >>> And some different points: >>> Ibooks was basically accessible with voiceover after one update from osx >>> 10.9 to osx 10.10. >>> >>> iWork’s is mainly accessible but is still missing some important >>> compatibility options to work together with ms office. >>> (most of the people that work in a administrative job, use windows with ms >>> office). >>> >>> I still love the mac because of some intuïtive features like the trackpad >>> with voiceover, time-machine, the possibility to maintain the system as >>> blind user on my own. >>> But , I don’t know if the newest features for blind users are good and >>> innovative enough to spend that much money on. >>> >>> With so great financial results the last weeks that where announced from >>> Apple, I should hope that more innovation is coming for people with >>> disabilities. >>> >>> Keep on the work that Steve Jobs has started. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> William Windels >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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