This is absolutely true. Apple mainly works through staffing companies, and you need to have strong references and proof of experience to even be given a look, especially for support positions. I will say no more than that.
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, [email protected] Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:22 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > > Getting a job at Apple is like getting a job at any other international > company. Be aware that Apple receives several hundred applications for every > position that they advertise. In many cases, it is over a thousand > applications. > > That said, like all large companies, Apple does much of its candidate > searching using placement companies. > > So, one approach you might try is locate a recruitment company which is > focused on technical support jobs. Tell the recruiter that you have > significant experience using and supporting Apple products. The recruiter > will have knowledge of companies that are seeking your skill sets. If you > have verifiable skills (previous employment or volunteer work) with good > references, your chances increase. Note: in order to work directly for Apple, > rather than an Apple support company, previous work experience with excellent > references is almost a necessity. > > There are some books available on NLS BARD and Bookshare which discuss much > of the interviewing and job application hurdles that prospective candidates > go through for the large, high-tech companies. I have read a few of these > books. > > It is a matter of course for all of these companies that employees sign > nondisclosure agreements stating they will not discuss the employment process > with outsiders. To do so can get an employee dismissed. Also, it is standard > for the calls to be recorded, so the advisor's responses were completely > appropriate, and what you will receive from other companies as well. That > said, Apple is legendary for its secrecy and compartmentalisation. Be aware > that the interviewing process for Apple requires either responding to a job > ad or being invited by Apple HR for a specific position. Unless it is upper > management or executive levels, it will require several interviews with both > groups and alone. It will require a significant amount of time (I suspect a > month or more), and it will involve the applicant demonstrating a full and > complete devotion to Apple and Apple's culture. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20 Mar 2015, at 08:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> First off, this isn't a complaint, nor is it a drama rant, as much as it's >> just something that really has me a bit unsettled. So don't worry. If >> you're not for reading, excuse the language, bitch session mail, then don't >> worry! I promise that is not at all the nature of the following message. I >> cross my heart, so please just hear me out on this. >> >> I was eating breakfast this morning with both my grandmother and a very very >> dear friend of mine who is a next door neighbor. We all three got to >> talking about the job industry and how with my expertees, and with my level >> of technical skills when it comes to Apple products both from an >> accessibility standpoint as well as just in general, how I really probably >> could be a major benefit to the Apple user consumer market. >> >> I confess that I have considered employment through Apple several times >> before, but I guess I never really took it all that seriously. I mean, I >> did, but I didn't. Anyway, long story short, I got to thinking about our >> discussion once I got back home. the more I thought about it, the more I >> realized that they are right. I really could! make a difference, most >> likely. >> >> So, I started brainstorming what department would I probably do the best at, >> and do I feel needs a team leader as myself. Naturally, the more I thought >> about it, the more I kept coming back to the Accessibility department. >> >> So, I finally said, ok, I'm going to give Apple Accessibility a call, and >> just see what exactly the criteria would be. Obviously, I'd have to move >> either to Austin or somewhere in Calafornia. That goes without saying. I'd >> very much be willing to do either, if it meant me getting hiered. >> >> So, I called and, ironically, got another gentlemen named Chris... go >> figure. Anyway, this is what bothers me big time! I asked him what the >> criteria is. He was incredibly, and I do mean incredibly! cryptic. He >> really wouldn't go into even the slightest bit of detail. He basically >> said, I'm not authorized to tell you this information. I'm like, ok, I'm >> not asking for you to give me the whole novel rundown. I'm only asking from >> a very general standpoint. Obviously, I'd have to transfer my geographic >> location to where one of the call centers are... that's inevitable. He's >> just like, well, yeah? You would... I'm like, ow'w'w, kayyy? and... what >> about training? I presume that I'd be required to get several weeks worth >> of training, wouldn't I? He's like, that, I cannot go into. I told him, >> OK, sir? I live in North Carolina. If it wind up being Calafornia that I >> have to move to, that is almost all the way on the other side of the >> country. Granted, I wouldn't move until I knew if I'd get the job, but >> still... that would be quite a huge lifechanging commitment. Especially >> moving away from all of my family loved ones, etc. He's like, OK, well, >> sir, I can't tell ya. I'm sorry. I asked him, then, who can. He said, I >> dunno. I'm not at liberty to say. I asked him why such the discrete >> nature. All I'm asking is generally how to start the process, no more no >> less. If he cannot tell me, then please tell me someone who can. >> >> He continued to be extremely vague. Finally, after a little bit of sweet >> talking, he finally ever so slightly mellowed up and told me, OK, look. You >> have to first be employed through Apple as just a standard advisor. Then, >> eventually, you'd be promoted up to Senior Advisor level whereby you'd then >> get onboard with the Accessibility Support team. I told him that made >> sense. I asked him, ok, then, no wonder you're a little secretive, as I'm >> not onboard with Apple right now, let alone a Senior Advisor, so you can't! >> really talk to me about how to become one. So... let's go another avenue. >> How do I become an Apple Advisor employ in general. Again, uh, sir, I >> really am not supposed to tell you. I'm like, then D*** it? how do people >> get hiered by you guys! If you won't tell them where to go, or how to get >> started with the application process, I mean, yeah, there is >> >> http://cooljobs.apple.com >> >> but that still doesn't really answer my question. I don't want to work for >> a company who is so quiet about their employmentship process. I'm sorry, >> but that's just ridiculous! >> >> Apple has always been very secretive. If it's the whole public seed betas >> of OSX, it's public! It's free! Anyone! can sign up! So what the blue flying >> heck! What's the point of NDA with that type of setup. Fine! If you don't >> wanna tell me, I'll just sign up myself, and then find out the NDA stuff for >> myself. I get! NDA. I get! confidentiality legistics, but give! me a! >> freaking! break for god sake! If it's not that, it's Apple being very quiet >> about their job offerings. If it's not that, it's them not wanting to tell >> me what cities have call centers, or if I could work with a hardware/soft >> sip phone from home connected to a PBX system logged into their queue. It's >> just one quiet thing after another. >> >> What about the other day when all ICloud based services went down for over >> 60% of the whole day? I could be wrong, and if I am, forgive me, but I >> don't think to this very day! they've disclosed to the public even on very >> very general terms their explaination for why they went down. I can tell >> you now, my local newstalk radio station was p?... owed. I mean, the least! >> they could a done is given us a very very terse, general! reason for the >> downtime. Again, it's not like I'm asking for the full in Paul Harvy's >> words... rest of the story... >> >> So what gives? Does anyone know not so much how! to get hiered as an >> advisor, but more what the requirements are to be so? I don't speak of, >> have no criminal background, have a drug free resulted drugscreening test. >> Duh! I know all that! I'm not that far gone. I'm saying more from a >> technical standpoint, what is required. >> >> the guy even told me, check around, as some agencies actually can help you >> become hiered. I'm like, Oh, yeah, I know, like Voc Rehab etc. He's like, >> no no no. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about direct agencies >> that work along side us. I asked him to elaborate, which of corse, he >> wouldn't. >> >> I just don't know how comfortable that I feel working for a company who is >> gonna be so top-secret. Since when did they become NSA! 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