There’s one more point in favor of KNFB. I just may have to plunk down the $$$.

> On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Kliph <kliphzkor...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> The KNFB reader also can read them.
>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:46 AM, Steve Nutt <st...@comproom.co.uk 
>> <mailto:st...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You said no screen reader can read them. This is incorrect. Jaws can, with 
>> its Convenient OCR function.
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
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>> On 27 Mar 2015, at 08:32, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Many PDF documents are scanned images. Scanned images cannot be read by any 
>> screen reader as they are actually pictures of the page of text.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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>> On 27 Mar 2015, at 21:24, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well I have just downloaded and installed version  11.0.10 from Adobe and 
>>> nothing appears to have changed.
>>> 
>>> None of the text area of the two PDF documents I loaded were available to 
>>> Voiceover.
>>> I went through the Accessibility Setup wizard and specified that I was 
>>> using a screen reader but this again provided  no useful  result. 
>>> The only text area of thethat I was able to interact and read was the 
>>> filename title of the PDF document.  
>>> 
>>> It is possible I have missed something but I went through all the 
>>> preferences.
>>> David Griffith
>>>> On 27 Mar 2015, at 06:23, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've not tried this yet, but the Adobe accessibility people were saying on 
>>>> Twitter yesterday that the new Adobe Reader for Mac has VO support.
>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>>> On 27/03/2015, at 3:05 pm, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> another way is to copy all text in the document with command A, then open 
>>>>> the preview menu, enter the services submenu and press enter on “new 
>>>>> textedit window with selection”.
>>>>> It does exactly what it sounds like.
>>>>> First make sure you’ve interacted with the pdf text area and can read the 
>>>>> text with the VO commands just to make sure you’re in the right place and 
>>>>> can  select all.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk 
>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t know if there’s a better way. But I highlight the text cmd+a 
>>>>>> then copy cmd+c then open text edit and paste cmd+v into a new document. 
>>>>>> Not nice but it works for me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>> On 26 Mar 2015, at 23:37, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can do it with preview if I interact with the image group. I’d like 
>>>>>>> to know how to save a pdf as text.
>>>>>>> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud 
>>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore <chris.w...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> What are some options for reading PDF files on the mac?
>>>>>>>> Chris
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