Hi,

Adobe is moving lots of productivity towards the cloud based solutions.  
Creative Cloud allows for a pseudo web-based version of the PhotoShop, Premiere 
Creative Suite and the Document Cloud is probably part of that same sort of 
movement.  Sorry, was following the whole thread but must have let the initial 
part of the conversation fly out of my head.

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:48, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>From the Adobe Accessibility blog:

http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2015/03/acrobat-dc-accessibility-update.html

They say the "upcoming release" not that it is actually released yet. Also they 
say this is the release of "Adobe Reader DC" where DC stands for Document 
Cloud. No idea what that is but it sounds like something I'll need an account 
and/or subscription to make use of. Their link to the announcement is broken 
but I was able to find this:

http://blogs.adobe.com/adobereader/2015/03/introducing-adobe-document-cloud.html

which eventually has links to

http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html

which is probably where the first link was supposed to go. At the very end it 
talks about "How to buy Document Cloud and Acrobat DC" but it doesn't clarify 
what might be needed just to use Adobe Reader DC. This press release dated 
March 17

http://www.adobe.com/news-room/pressreleases/201503/031715AdobeIntroducesDocumentCloud.html

says Adobe Document Cloud and Acrobat DC are expected to be available within 30 
days so that means mid-April. Subscriptions to DC are $14.99 a month but still 
nothing about costs to just open a PDF with Adobe Reader DC.

CB

On 3/27/15 2:35 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> Absolutely no confusion on my part. If you check the earlier thread you will 
> see Jonathan said Adobe had announced that they released a VO Accessible 
> version of Adobe Reader for the Mac on Twitter yesterday.
> 
> David Griffith
>> On 27 Mar 2015, at 18:23, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m guessing that you were either confused between the iOS version and the 
>> Mac version, or someone believes that using Adobe Reader’s “Read Out Loud” 
>> feature constitutes being accessible.  Supposedly, the iOS version of Adobe 
>> Reader has VO support, although I can’t confirm at this point.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 09:45, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> OK I checked for updates and it told me I had the  latest version so the 
>> accessible VO version is hopefully yet to come.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> On 27/03/2015 15:18, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 11.0.10 was released December 2014 so I suspect that is not the fixed 
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 3/27/15 4:24 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>>> Well I have just downloaded and installed version  11.0.10 from Adobe and 
>>>> nothing appears to have changed.
>>>> 
>>>> None of the text area of the two PDF documents I loaded were available to 
>>>> Voiceover.
>>>> I went through the Accessibility Setup wizard and specified that I was 
>>>> using a screen reader but this again provided  no useful result.
>>>> The only text area of thethat I was able to interact and read was the 
>>>> filename title of the PDF document.
>>>> 
>>>> It is possible I have missed something but I went through all the 
>>>> preferences.
>>>> David Griffith
>>>>> On 27 Mar 2015, at 06:23, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've not tried this yet, but the Adobe accessibility people were saying 
>>>>> on Twitter yesterday that the new Adobe Reader for Mac has VO support.
>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27/03/2015, at 3:05 pm, Phil Halton <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> another way is to copy all text in the document with command A, then 
>>>>>> open the preview menu, enter the services submenu and press enter on 
>>>>>> “new textedit window with selection”.
>>>>>> It does exactly what it sounds like.
>>>>>> First make sure you’ve interacted with the pdf text area and can read 
>>>>>> the text with the VO commands just to make sure you’re in the right 
>>>>>> place and can  select all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Georgina Joyce <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don’t know if there’s a better way. But I highlight the text cmd+a 
>>>>>>> then copy cmd+c then open text edit and paste cmd+v into a new 
>>>>>>> document. Not nice but it works for me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>> On 26 Mar 2015, at 23:37, Lorie McCloud <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I can do it with preview if I interact with the image group. I’d like 
>>>>>>>> to know how to save a pdf as text.
>>>>>>>> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> What are some options for reading PDF files on the mac?
>>>>>>>>> Chris
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