I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter 
words, but this is over the top.  In addition to being completely 
inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful.
thank you,
Donna

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT
> From: mário navarro <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> fuck you, piece  of shit ...
> who you think you are ...
> You must be very important sucker!
> if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with  you ...
> I do not spoke to you sucker ...
> your head is full of shit ...
> you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ...
> Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu:
>> I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a 
>> small spoilt child ranting in a playground.
>> We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal 
>> insults at each other.
>> Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If 
>> this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> man, why  you are so stupid?
>>> you work for apple?
>>> apple pay all your debts at the end of the month?
>>> apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over?
>>> yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ...
>>> shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ...
>>> 
>>> Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:
>>>> All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning 
>>>> have pretty much been fixed.
>>>> I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first 
>>>> generation, and all is very very smoothe.  I really don't have any issues 
>>>> any longer.  OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser 
>>>> will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the 
>>>> main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page 
>>>> literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it.
>>>> Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna 
>>>> have to trust me with this.
>>>> Chris.
>>>> ---
>>>> Check out my web site at:
>>>> http://www.clgproductions.net
>>>> 
>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>    *From:* Jon Solitro <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>    *To:* [email protected]
>>>>    <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>    *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM
>>>>    *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
>>>> 
>>>>    The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as
>>>>    I haven't been able to download it yet.
>>>> 
>>>>    I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth
>>>>    it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to
>>>>    run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade?
>>>> 
>>>>    Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>    On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, "george b" <[email protected]
>>>>    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>    What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am
>>>>>    interested in this please.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>>    *From:*[email protected]
>>>>>    <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro
>>>>>    *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54
>>>>>    *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>    <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>    *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
>>>>> 
>>>>>    I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running
>>>>>    iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to
>>>>>    install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux
>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>>        I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8
>>>>>        and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar.
>>>>>        Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off
>>>>>        midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when
>>>>>        getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started
>>>>>        looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to
>>>>>        nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out
>>>>>        for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2
>>>>>        debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was
>>>>>        going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2
>>>>>        tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want
>>>>>        some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I
>>>>>        shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do
>>>>>        things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some
>>>>>        great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans
>>>>>        aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I
>>>>>        go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my
>>>>>        future.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for
>>>>>        those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple,
>>>>>        just remember a few basic things:
>>>>> 
>>>>>        1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving
>>>>>        apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut
>>>>>        on your music production or app developement with their
>>>>>        platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that
>>>>>        collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few
>>>>>        individuals decide on the direction of that experience.
>>>>>        Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a
>>>>>        good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous
>>>>>        marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of
>>>>>        human interface, a software division, coming from someone who
>>>>>        used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust
>>>>>        in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers
>>>>>        presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have
>>>>>        enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical
>>>>>        transition animation style crap instead of truly clean,
>>>>>        efficient and snappy interfaces.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what.
>>>>>        Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be
>>>>>        part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone.
>>>>>        It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is
>>>>>        standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and
>>>>>        updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s
>>>>>        broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying
>>>>>        a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and
>>>>>        moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the
>>>>>        window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call
>>>>>        good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends,
>>>>>        mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me
>>>>>        that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s
>>>>>        image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that
>>>>>        can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers
>>>>>        behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being
>>>>>        probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this
>>>>>        weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight
>>>>>        talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend
>>>>>        chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul?
>>>>>        Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style
>>>>>        apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world
>>>>>        presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is
>>>>>        quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this
>>>>>        qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the
>>>>>        research and the graduations of bright people, should lead us
>>>>>        much farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer,
>>>>>        and let’s not forget screen readers.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Yuma Antoine Decaux
>>>>> 
>>>>>        "Light has no value without darkness"
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Mob: +612102277190
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Skype: Shainobi1
>>>>> 
>>>>>        twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
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