Sounds like from what I am hearing you all say, there are still bluetooth 
issues.

In you all's defense, this would explain greatly why I might have missed a lot 
of these things.  I personally don't use a bluetooth keyboard very frequently, 
and I don't own any sort of a braille note taker, nor display, so I wouldn't 
have any idea on those two fronts.

Let's hope these things are fixed in 8.3.

Chris.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matthew Dierckens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:21 AM
  Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8


  There are Braille display issues as well. I am awaiting the day when we can 
type normally on the display, and not have the device lock up if you are a fast 
Brailler. 

  God bless.
  Matthew Dierckens
  Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
  Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer

  U.S. number: 573-401-1018
  Personal Email: [email protected]


    On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:


     It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure.  As they 
have updated the software, there have been bug fixes.  There are still 
Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present.  
However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it.


    Take Care

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    Mac for the Blind
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      On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro <[email protected]> wrote:


      shut your mouth silly!
      everything is still unresolved ...
      think first before you talk...

      cheers.
      Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:

        Whatever people.  I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but 
that is the key word... Did!

        Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what 
you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed.  
Maybe then, you'll believe me.

        Chris.
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        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Pamela Francis
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM
        Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

        I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm 
believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it.

        On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, "Jon Solitro" <[email protected]> wrote:
        I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 
7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I 
update, or can I expect slower operation?

        On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote:
        Hi all,

        I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have 
to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than 
on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like 
slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking 
for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into 
the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in 
case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was 
going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up 
like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life 
experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do 
things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But 
their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can 
listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me 
my future.

        Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you 
who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic 
things:
        1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple 
makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app 
developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.
        2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively 
create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of 
that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a 
good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with 
design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, 
coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can 
trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the 
last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with 
all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly 
clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
        3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes 
I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of 
creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most 
companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be 
broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it 
should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of 
hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that 
damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call 
good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both 
sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in 
terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil 
tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers behind 
murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being probably more complacent than 
should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each year now with a barely 
straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time 
or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever the case, I 
don’t really dig the style apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world 
presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite literally 
lagging. No visionary stuff, when this qualification should by now, from all 
the sci fi, the research and the graduations of bright people, should lead us 
much farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer, and let’s not 
forget screen readers.

        Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall 








        Yuma Antoine Decaux
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