Plus 1 this!

I whole-heartedly agree!
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donna Goodin 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:16 PM
  Subject: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you 
want on this list?


  I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter 
words, but this is over the top.  In addition to being completely 
inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful.
  thank you,
  Donna



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    Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT

    From: mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com>

    To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

    Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

    Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com





    fuck you, piece  of shit ...
    who you think you are ...
    You must be very important sucker!
    if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with  you ...
    I do not spoke to you sucker ...
    your head is full of shit ...
    you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ...
    Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu:

      I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a 
small spoilt child ranting in a playground.
      We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling 
personal insults at each other.
      Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If 
this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off.

      David Griffith

      On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote:



        man, why  you are so stupid?
        you work for apple?
        apple pay all your debts at the end of the month?
        apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over?
        yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ...
        shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ...

        Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:

          All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the 
beginning have pretty much been fixed.
          I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first 
generation, and all is very very smoothe.  I really don't have any issues any 
longer.  OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap 
the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site 
where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking 
has over 12 thousand links on it.
          Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just 
gonna have to trust me with this.
          Chris.
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             ----- Original Message -----
             *From:* Jon Solitro <mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com>
             *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
             <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
             *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM
             *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

             The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as
             I haven't been able to download it yet.

             I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth
             it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to
             run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade?

             Sent from my iPad

             On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, "george b" <gbma...@gmail.com
             <mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:


               What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am
               interested in this please.

               thanks

               *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
               <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
               [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon 
Solitro
               *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54
               *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
               <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
               *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

               I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running
               iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to
               install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation?


               On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux
               wrote:

                   Hi all,

                   I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8
                   and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar.
                   Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off
                   midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when
                   getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started
                   looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to
                   nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out
                   for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2
                   debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was
                   going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2
                   tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want
                   some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I
                   shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do
                   things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some
                   great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans
                   aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I
                   go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my
                   future.

                   Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for
                   those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple,
                   just remember a few basic things:

                   1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving
                   apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut
                   on your music production or app developement with their
                   platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.

                   2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that
                   collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few
                   individuals decide on the direction of that experience.
                   Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a
                   good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous
                   marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of
                   human interface, a software division, coming from someone who
                   used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust
                   in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers
                   presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have
                   enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical
                   transition animation style crap instead of truly clean,
                   efficient and snappy interfaces.

                   3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what.
                   Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be
                   part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone.
                   It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is
                   standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and
                   updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s
                   broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying
                   a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and
                   moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the
                   window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call
                   good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends,
                   mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me
                   that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s
                   image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that
                   can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers
                   behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being
                   probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this
                   weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight
                   talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend
                   chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul?
                   Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style
                   apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world
                   presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is
                   quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this
                   qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the
                   research and the graduations of bright people, should lead us
                   much farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer,
                   and let’s not forget screen readers.

                   Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall

                   Yuma Antoine Decaux

                   "Light has no value without darkness"

                   Mob: +612102277190

                   Skype: Shainobi1

                   twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7

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