So did I.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <br...@hostany.net>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


Oh, I see. I thought you had to use the restore option in iTunes to get it
on there.
----- Original Message ----- From: "John D. Lipsey" <johnl1...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


No, when you install the beta version of iOS anything, it’s just like
installing a public nonbeta release. You can install it without removing any
content, as long as you choose to update to, rather than restore to the beta
version.

The only time you have to erase the device is if you wish to downgrade from
the beta back to the current publically available version.

Hope that helps.

DFTBA!

John D. Lipsey

mail: johnl1...@gmail.com

Twitter: @J_TGL

On Jun 14, 2015, at 17:17, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote:

The thing with the betas though, don't you have to wipe everything out to even install them? I will probably wait until July when the public beta is released, if I install the beta at all, but as far as I understood, when you load it through iTunes, it is also factory resetting your device. I kind of did wonder, as far as Apple Pay goes, if the bank knows when you deleted your card, to free up that device slot, if there is a limit on how many you can activate?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


Could be, but I still think it's a bit misleading. Call me maybe a bit picky on samantics, but, whatever.

LOL!

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: "macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


I think Apple is covering their backs so developers can't complain or even sue Apple for bricking their devices.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Whatever George.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: george b
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind of a man???

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 04:54
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

Guys,

I just wanted to clear up some miscommunication by Apple. They say on the developer web site that once you upgrade to I O S 9, you cannot go back to a previous version, like 8.3. That's utter bullshit from what so far I can see. Now, I wanna make this very very clear. I am saying this on the basis of! from what I so? far! can see! Keep that in mind.

I have an I O S device which I did update to I O S 9. I've changed my mind, and now am deciding not to deploy it to I O S 9 after all. OK, I have a device I will! be keeping on I O S 9, just not this particular one. Anyway, the point is, they are only partially right in what they're saying on their web site from what it seems.

1. If you try to downgrade while your device is normally booted up into I O S 9, then no. It won't work. That is factually accurate information which I have verified.

2. If, however Apple has not stopped digitally signing the previous version of I O S, which of corse, 8.3, they haven't, then you can get it back as long as before you restore the device, you first get the device into DFU mode, just as you did when you upgraded to I O S 9. I tried this, and I O S 8.3 definitely now is downloading. I'll keep you all posted, and let you all know if I'm able to flash it back, and restore from my backup. To the best of my knowledge though, this seems to so far be working.

Chris.
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