Hi Brian,

If you manage to have the problem solved, would you mind writing me off-list to 
share how you and Ben have achieved this?  I may need Ancient Greek at some 
point as well.

Thanks and good luck

Andrew
> On 16 Jul 2015, at 15:27, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> 
> Ben called last night and left you a voicemail, so hopefully you and him can 
> hook up.  He's quite confident he can help you out.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lamanche" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:36 AM
> Subject: Re: biblical greek on the mac
> 
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display and 
> the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order to 
> read.  I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i have 
> no access to their Braille paper literature.  On the mac side, you can choose 
> Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. Incidentally, 
> the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I don't have to 
> switch Braille tables all the time.  I just have the table set to Greek and 
> it works for both English and Greek.
> 
> Hope things are going to work out for you.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No problem Andrew.  That definitely helps though.  Right now I am digging in 
>> to a greek text in braille.  I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille 
>> code.  I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I 
>> could use while trying to learn Greek.  Right now, I am struggling trying to 
>> understand how the greek braille code works.
>> Brian
>>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> 
>>> I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because:
>>> 1.  AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good,
>>> 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos.  Mac also has 
>>> a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you 
>>> can add to your keyboards.
>>> 
>>> You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly.
>>> 
>>> I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these 
>>> voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not 
>>> recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above.  But do 
>>> check it out yourself.  you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the 
>>> selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and 
>>> confirm this.  I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text 
>>> from somebody.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry not to have better news for you.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if 
>>>> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover.  
>>>> Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as 
>>>> pronunciations and things like that.  Thanks,
>>>> Brian
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