Well, I am not sure but I think I've been insulted! My friend I think you're 
going to have to start your own such list. I mean, after all, look who you're 
asking for advice and direction. Very same people you think are fools adios my 
friend good luck bye

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> On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Yuma Decaux <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Considering the kind of polemics this list is going through, and that I 
> haven’t seen one topic of which I am not aware of being an older mac os/ios 
> user, I think it is time to shut my subscription from this list and look for 
> a more adapted list which tries to advance the ideas of technology, and voice 
> over in particular. May someone point me to a list which basically does not 
> discuss so much about how to click this icon or make this boot drive work 
> with that OS but rather a more creative output of ideas, developer topics and 
> other subjecst that may appeal more to computer scientists, programmers and 
> other creative heads? I know of some list that goes in this line, but I am 
> looking for a place where everyone, or a large majority is a blind apple 
> developer, programmer or tech industrial who uses xcode or can enter a more 
> intellectually stimulating line of topics to help me understand better what 
> blind/visually impaired users are looking for in apps, technologies such as 
> A.I, machine learning as applied to apps or even conceptual discussions for 
> sonificating apps for games and interactive media? Or does such a list exist?
> 
> In any case, I hope this list will clean up a bit as now it has become a 
> large boudoir of everyone throwing in their opinion on every topic, which has 
> become very tedious and superfluous at this point. I am not pointing fingers 
> at anyone in particular, but hope that as a group, this list will start 
> putting more emphasis on what matters. Action is much more respectable than 
> politics and competing to have the most score in giving technical advice or 
> saying what you think. I have noticed one very important difference between 
> sighted and visually impaired users. The former are inundated with visual 
> advertising and therefore know how to filter out the superfluous. As a blind 
> programmer, I live in a world almost devoid of any ads save youtube, and 
> therefore am much aware of the superfluous. So I preffer filtering it out 
> rather than sticking to some strange illusion of grandeur over being in some 
> list where everyone is cackering over everything. In some ways, this is 
> counter productive as it is hours and hours of writing back and forth, every 
> day. Think about it. It has no utility and no intrinsic value.
> 
> But people get addicted to it, just like anything else in the world. I’d 
> rather get addicted to producing music, apps, creating technologies and being 
> outdoors camping, going to festivals, socialising, dining and doing sports 
> than being addicted to responding to tech help requests.
> 
> In any case, take care of yourselves everyone.
> 
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