I, too, will be leaving if this doesn't clear up. 

To limit the discussion to Mac OS X is ridiculous. 

Sent from my iPhone 

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> On 16 Sep 2015, at 9:57 pm, Jessica Moss <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Can you please give me the irk for these lists?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 1:54 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm gonna wait until Cara and Mark make their final judgements. I posted my 
>> opinions in another thread so I won't post them again, but I will say that 
>> if this list develops the strict rule that we can only talk about the Mac, 
>> then sorry to say, I'll be doing the same as others have and or will do and 
>> take my talents elsewhere. I'm subscribed to three other lists that let 
>> people talk about Mac and iPhone in one list, one list, Peel The Apple, has 
>> an off topic weekend where people can talk about anything, Windows, Android, 
>> even Jaws. The other two are Joseph Hudson's Blind Apples list and John P's 
>> Mac For The Blind list. So as you can see I have a lot of resources at my 
>> disposal. One more thing, the sad day will be when I do unsubscribe because 
>> I share Kawal's sentiments in that I've met a ton of awesome people and I 
>> even have some of you on Skype and social media. So it will be sad if I do 
>> unsubscribe because these past 5 years with you guys were awesome and to 
>> those of you that don't have me on Skype or social media, I'll miss you a 
>> lot.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
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>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I agree with you Scott.  This is not the sentiment of the list that I 
>>> joined 10 years ago.  I will sign off of this one.  Can be more useful 
>>> elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:15, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought the rest of the list would be interested in this response from 
>>> Mark sent off list but I think he should have responded on list.
>>> 
>>> Obviously he has no interest in what we the users have requested.  Any 
>>> idiot knows that the Apple environment is an ecosystem of devices and 
>>> software as well as content.  The Mac is a part, the iPhone is a part, pad 
>>> still another.  So instead of having one logical place to discuss the 
>>> entire ecosystem your moderator wants to have super fragmentation and then 
>>> stifle conversations that don’t deal with the Mac specifically.  We know 
>>> the VIPhone list is over run with garbage messages and badly moderated.  As 
>>> several stated they wanted a place here to discuss the entire Apple product 
>>> line and also presented was this list predates any others and as such 
>>> previously was a clearinghouse for all things Apple not just Mac.  I will 
>>> of course comply by leaving the list as I have no interest in subscribing 
>>> to yet more lists and I hope his power trip was satisfying.  Mark, your 
>>> users don’t want this so why enforce something that doesn’t make sense and 
>>> doesn’t meet the needs of the many users who have spoken up?
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: "M. Taylor" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List:  RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?
>>>> Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Scott,
>>>> 
>>>> As stated in the subject, I am replying to you, off-list.  I would have 
>>>> appreciated the same courtesy.
>>>> 
>>>> While I appreciate your sentiment on this, the bottom line is that this 
>>>> list is dedicated to Mac OSX products and services only.  
>>>> 
>>>> So I ask you to please respect this policy and close this thread.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:02 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?
>>>> 
>>>> This is bogus.
>>>> 
>>>> I absolutely ask you to reconsider.  Apple devices should be on topic.  
>>>> Non apple devices should be on topic as long as the topic involves 
>>>> interoperation with Apple devices or comparisons of Apple devices to that 
>>>> product.
>>>> 
>>>> This list should allow the watch as well and support all Apple products.  
>>>> There may be an iPhone list and that’s all well and good but a lot of us 
>>>> don’t want to bother with more than one list
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 4:15 AM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> As this is not an iOS forum, I ask that this topic be taken off-list.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for understanding.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
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